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Tuesday, December 28, 2010

3194) Turkish-Armenian Conflict: What Now? Exclusive Interview With ERGÜN KIRLIKOVALI, President-Elect, ATAA

Posted on 5:27 PM by Unknown
Washington DC, USA, December 28, 2010
Ergun Kirlikovali © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com We asked all the controversial questions on our readers’ minds and received pretty candid, informative, and stimulating responses from the president-elect of ATAA (the Assembly of Turkish American Associations.) You can find his bio at the organization’s official and sole website: www.ataa.org.

ATAA is a non-profit, non-governmental organization established in Washington DC, USA, in 1979, as an umbrella for the local and regional Turkish-American non-profit organizations coast-to-coast, representing about half a million Turkish American citizens on matters important to Turkey-USA relations. The ATAA does not own, operate or moderate any other information sharing sites or chat groups, although some groups use the acronym ATAA without consent or approval of the ATAA.

It has been generally observed that the ATAA has been quite vocal in the recent years in media, academia, and politics , with concerted efforts to educate public. In fact, the ATAA was instrumental in defeating the H.Res. 252 last week. This interview should give our readers some insight into the minds behind the ATAA’s success.


 question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: There is much to cover, so let’s start with the most recent events. There has been yet another attempt to resuscitate H.Res. 252 in the U.S. Congress on the eleventh hour. Knowing full well that the Republic of Turkey and the Turkish people would put up a fierce resistance to stop the resolution and would probably succeed, too, why do you think Pelosi resorted to such a risky political move in the last few hours of the 111th Congress?

 answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: I cannot speak for Pelosi but I suppose she’s got her own calculations that showed another outcome. If that’s the case, she is misinformed... again. Democrats, as you know, took a beating in the November elections which caused Pelosi to lose her title as the speaker of the House. I am not sure if Pelosi would have been in the mood for a second major defeat so quickly and so close to high holidays. It was almost like pointing at your chin and say “Hit me right here!” (smiles.)

It could also be for show. Even if she lost, Pelosi would be able to say to her Armenian voters “Look, I tried. I kept my promise.” This way, Armenian support would continue./ What Pelosi et al failed to consider was high powered demands coming from the executive and legislative branches not to pursue H.Res. 252 and similar requests and advises from the business, industry, and voter community groups. Such intense and instant pressure burst Pelosi’s bubble. Even Pelosi could not ignore the serious destruction she would cause to American interests if she brought this ill-informed and malicious resolution to a vote.

 question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: You think HR 252 would lose, though, if came to a floor vote?

answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: The vote would probably be close but no cigar. It would definitely lose, that much I can say. And I say this because most of those who oppose this racist and dishonest resolution would put America’s interests before Armenia’s interest as soon as they are informed as much. At the end of the day, the patriotic feelings in these people would rise and dictate that H.Res. 252 be categorically rejected. After all, H.Res. is not only anti-Turkish and anti-truth, but it is also downright anti-American.

 question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: Can you expand on that?

answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: I would be delighted to. For instance, check this poster out.

Ergun Kirlikovali © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com
This photo is straight from Armenian literature . [1]

It shows the personnel and students of the ARF Military Academy in Bulgaria, 1907-1907 class. Military academy? In Bulgaria? In 1906? Yes, yes, and yes. Welcome to the real Armenian problem. As you can see, Armenian revolts and acts of treason and terrorism did not start in 1915 as commonly misrepresented by pseudo scholars who call themselves genocide scholars. They started decades ago. According to a reputable British source, 120,000 Muslims, mostly Turkish, were killed by Armenian nationalists in 1914 [2a]. And that does not even take into account the infamous Van Rebellion by Armenians in April of 1915. [2b][2c] Where are the Muslim, mostly Turkish, victims of these trained, armed, uniformed Armenian insurgents? You cannot find a single word about these Armenian hate crimes and war crimes in that biased and ill-informed H.Res. 252. This is a racist attitude on the part of the Armenians and their self-serving allies.


How important is this? Well, consider this: The U.S. crossed oceans and continents to wage a trillion dollar global war on terrorism because 3,000 of its citizens were killed on American soil. Why is it, then, so difficult to understand that the Ottoman Empire, having lost more than 160,000 of its citizens in the 12 month period running from May 1914 , resorted to similar, but much lesser, self-defence measure of TERESET (Temporary Resettlement) of the perpetrators? Rephrased, how can 3,000 victims in 2001 justify a international, global war, but 120,000 victims in 1914 (and many more in 1915) do not justify even a domestic, local TERESET ?

The Armenian lobby point to the women and children in the Armenian groups temporarily relocated, but the same fail to point out that there were Muslim women and children forced to flee by the Russian-Armenian forces from the Caucasus into Eastern Anatolia. So, same suffering, same numbers, same area, same era, same wartime conditions... But just because other sufferers are Muslim, mostly Turkish, you don’t get to read about them in evil resolutions like H.Res. 252. This is the kind of selective conscience the racist Armenian falsifiers and their fellow Turk-haters who push H.Res. 252 have. We say if we are all to grieve about human suffering and man’s inhumanity to man, then let’s do that without discriminating on the basis of ethnicity, religion. Let’s grieve for both Armenian and Turk... and Arab, and Jew, and Greek, and Kurd, and Laz, and Circassian, and Albanian, and Bosnian, and Pomak and many others...

Why cherry-pick Armenians from the lot and ignore or dismiss the rest? Who gives anyone such power to classify and rank human beings? Only the evil Armenian lobby and their fellow Turk-haters commit such overtly hate-based resolutions, year after year, with absolutely no shame or remorse... Why is my dead lesser than your dead? Why should we grieve your dead and disregard my dead? Who the hell are you? That’s how I feel about the H.Res. 252. Those who want empathy from others should learn to give empathy to others.

Then there is the oft misrepresented issue of April 24th. What is the significance of 24th of April, 1915? The AFATH lobby [5] would have you believe it is the beginning of a so called genocide. But is it? What really happened that day? . On that day, some 237 Armenian terror and/or treason suspects (not thousands as claimed) were arrested by the Ottoman police and sent to central Anatolia, to places like Corum, Cankiri, Ankara, etc., and subjected to house arrest. This meant they could roam around during the day, even conduct business which some of them did, but had to check into a designated house at night. Not exactly genocide, is it? Not even Guantanamo, wouldn’t you agree? All of these suspects were returned in the end, except two. Those two were, indeed, murdered but on unrelated disputes of money and trade. No matter how one slices it, none of this sounds like genocide, does it? So, 24th of April is the beginning of OTTOMAN GUANTANAMO, not a bogus genocide as promoted in H.Res. 252.

Turks and Armenians had lived in a relatively harmonious cohabitation in Anatolia for nearly a millennium before the Armenian took up arms against their own government towards the end of that millennium (i.e. 1893-1915). Had the Armenians (and others) not taken up arms against their own neighbors, co-citizens, and government, they would have still been living in Anatolia today, just like the Armenians of Istanbul who mostly stayed loyal to the Ottoman Empire. Since when, then, defending one’s home a genocide? Would America behave differently today if three million Americans (roughly equivalent of 120,000 Ottomans killed by Armenians in 1914 alone) were mercilessly killed by some insurgent groups who then enthusiastically joined the enemy armies invading America?


Take a look at this other photo, also from Armenian sources. [Houshamatyan book, page 45] [3]. Here you can see the Armenian gangs, para military hoodlums, armed to the teeth, with mostly Russian deadly Mosin rifles given to the Armenian Revolutionary Federation terrorists by Russia starting from 1893 [4].
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Armenian militia, just as deadly as the Armenian uniformed forces pictured above. Can you imagine? All of these thugs, murderers, and terrorists were presented to the unsuspecting Western readers as “poor, starving Armenians” murdered by barbaric Turks. Such narrative fit their bias perfectly. Never mind that it was fake, false, and untrue. Armenian archives must be full of these photos, letters, documents, and “smoking guns”, which helps explain why Armenian archives in the hands of Armenian government, churches, and parties remain closed to scholarly study to this date. Turks have opened their archives more than two decades ago and scholars from 80 countries have already studied them. We have nothing to fear from the truth, but Armenians tremble when we suggest that a “committee of historians” study all the archives.


When you see the meaningless Armenian resistance to scholarly fact-finding, it makes you think, what are Armenians hiding? Of course, looking at those photos above, and thousands like them, we have slight idea (smiles.)

Where are the Turks killed by these blood-thirsty Armenian terrorists? Where? Do not look for them in that malicious H.Res. 252 because you will not find them there. That is what both angers and frustrates, but also energizes and motivates me, and tens of thousands of Turkish Americans like me. We are the voice of those silent masses who cannot speak out to defend themselves against slanders and lies. Those nameless, faceless, voiceless Turkish victims find a voice in us. Many of those Turkish victims were in my father’s extended family in Kirlikova and my mother’s family in Skopje. Every Turkish family has similar stories of suffering and loss. And where is all that? You cannot find them in the narratives of the AFATH community. [5]

It is exactly because of these reasons, I have invented a new word, "Ethocide", a companion and supplementary term to “Genocide”, at exactly at 8:58 am, on Wednesday, May 7, 2003, after being frustrated by the incredibly biased coverage of Turkish-Armenian issue in the American press. [6]

Ethocide, my humble gift to the English language, is coined from the words "ethics" and "cide". Its companion term in Turkish, Ahlakkirim, is also my invention and modest gift to the Turkish language. They both mean one and the same thing with the short definition: "systematic extermination of ethics via deliberate and malicious mass deception for political and/or other benefits. For a longer and proper definition you can go to www.ethocide.com. [7] I want the newer generations to be able to fight the bogus Armenian genocide effortlessly with proper tools like this new term. So called genocide scholars are committing this crime of conscience, ethocide, every time they ignore or dismiss the “six T’s of the Turkish Armenian conflict. [8] Anyone who wishes to learn more about the falsifications, misrepresentations, lies, and fabrications embodied in the H.Res. 252 should go to reference [9].





question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: What do you think about this image of Turks persistently promoted by the Armenians as barbaric, ruthless overlords, even in the H.Res. 252 and pretty much everywhere else?

 answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: I think will ask my friend Voltaire , the famous 18th Century French philosopher, to come to my aid here (smiles.) You see, Voltaire was a campaigner against tyranny and bigotry, which is probably why he could not keep out of trouble. Voltaire, the Renaissance man of the Enlightenment, always struck back with bitter, mocking, poignant sarcasm whenever he was attacked. Voltaire often scrutinized the political and philosophical controversies of the 18th century and fought tirelessly for the oppressed. And Voltaire did comment on Turks, too, and here is what he said: “ The great Turk is governing in peace twenty nations from different religions. Turks have taught the Christians how to be moderate in peace and gentle in victory." Enough said, I presume?

 question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: Considering the “Aid Raid” fallout between Israel and Turkey, do you think HR 252 would fail a floor vote without the usual stiff resistance from the Jewish lobby?

answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: The amicable Jewish Turkish relations go back further in history than the history of the United States. Turkey is a home, just like Israel, for every Jew, to come live, prosper, build a community, and feel safe. Both Israel and the Jewish lobby know this well which may be why they were measured in their comments after the “Aid Raid” last June, save a few extremists on Jewish and Turkish sides. Turkish-Jewish friendship predates even 1492 Spanish Inquisitions, when Jews found a home in Turkish lands after being expelled under the well documented threats of "convert to Christianity or die... or leave Spain." When European countries would not allow expelled Jews in for fear of retaliation from Catholic Rome, the Ottoman Empire not only invited the homeless Jews but also sent the Ottoman Navy to bring them to Turkish lands. Jews prospered there as loyal Ottoman citizens. Such history cannot be exchanged for a few Armenian votes or campaign dollars, although some ignorant ones still do. There is that aspect.

At issue are not Israel, the Jewish lobby or even Armenian interests; at issue are American interests. Plain and simple. Passing HR 252 would cause irreparable harm to Turkey-USA relations which may manifest themselves in the US policies in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and many others. The question in front of the 111th US Congress people would be “Do Armenian interests trump American interests?” When that happens, you can pretty much guess the outcome.

If your readers wish to know more about Turkish-Jewish relations and how Armenian gangs murdered Turks and Jews during WWI, they should refer to reference [10].

In summary, H.Res. 252 was Bad for national security as it negatively affected the use of Incirlik Airbase in Turkey; partnership in Afghanistan; cooperation in Iraq, energy security, and a whole host of other issues. It also would devastate the U.S. policy in the Balkans, Caucasus, Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa, where Turkey continues to work with the U.S. on moderation, development, and peace. H.Res. 252 was anti-business as it sought to limit and punish bilateral commercial relationships where the U.S. had a huge surplus with multibillion dollars in commercial aviation, aerospace, and defence sales. These mean American jobs. Nothing remotely comparable comes from tiny, land-locked, poverty-stricken, aggressive, violent, and corrupt Armenia whose top export is illegal aliens and crooks and top import is foreign aid from American taxpayers and donations from Armenian Americans. One should be insane to support crooks and terrorists, especially in the face of insulting and angering a bulwark of Western defence alliance, and island of peace, stability and progress, a driving force in moderation, and a reliable friend in the troubled Middle East. Forces of reason and moderation reigned, thankfully, as the Obama Administration opposed the bringing of this contentious issue to a floor vote with both the Defense and State Departments playing active roles on Capitol Hill in opposition to H.Res. 252. If you look back, you will see that this deceptive and dishonest resolution was passed by the HFAC by the narrowest of margins: a single vote, thanks to the under-handed tactics of Congressman Berman. The American people and American interests deserve better than these shady politicians like Pelosi, Berman, Schiff, Pallone, Radanovich, and other prominent members of the AFATH community. [5]

The Armenian American National Committee (ANCA), the U.S. representative of a political party in Armenia called the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, or ARF for short, demanded that the United States Congress take H.Res. 252 to a floor vote. Their proxies named above obliged. Last March, H.Res. 252 had controversially passed the House Foreign Affairs Committee 23-22, severely harming the U.S. policy to support a Joint Historical Commission to address the Armenian allegation of genocide, and causing serious disruption in U.S. - Turkish relations. H.Res. 252 is an anti-Turkish, anti-Muslim racist measure that erroneously defines the Armenian case as genocide, a contention with which the vast majority of experts on WWI Middle East history and the Ottoman Empire disagree. [11]

H.Res. 252 unfairly accuses, judges and convicts people of Turkish heritage with this high crime without due process. On the other hand, Armenian community in the U.S. is exposed with yet another cycle of massive fraud, stealing American taxpayers’ money to the tune of $163 million. [12] And as Wikileaks revealed, the Armenian Republic sells arms to Iran, promoting an aggressive policy in the Caucuses and Middle East, and causing U.S. soldiers in Iraq to be killed by those weapons. [13] The Armenian Republic currently occupies western Azerbaijan, by the massacres and forced migration of nearly one million Azeris. [14] How can any reasonable politician support the Armenian crooks and terrorists, especially in the face of serious threat to American interests?

When Saddam crossed the line in to Kuwait in 1991, we reversed aggression using military might. When Milosevic resorted to ethnic cleansing and genocide, we bombed Yugoslavia in 1998 to smithereens. But when Armenia committed all of these crimes against humanity, namely aggression, ethnic cleansing, and genocide in Karabagh, some unscrupulous politicians like Pelosi, Berman, Schiff, Pallone, Radanovich, Menendez and others tried shamelessly to reward the rogue state of Armenia and its murderous leaders. These kinds of blatant double standards, bias, and bigotry are neither helping America’s image nor America’s global interests. Here we have the most powerful nation on earth, represented by political pygmies! We shall continue to educate the American public to this sad picture.

 question © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: I know we cannot cover all aspects of this 100 year old controversy in one interview, but I thank you for your time and the insight you provided.

 answer © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com: It was my pleasure. May I please leave your readers with the following quote from 1923, food for thought so to speak, so that when they see the H.Res. 252 reincarnated under yet other number next year, they will at least have a baseline to which to compare the baseless Armenian allegations: "…In some towns containing ten Armenian houses and thirty Turkish houses, it was reported that 40,000 people were killed, about 10,000 women were taken to the harem, and thousands of children left destitute; and the city university destroyed, and the bishop killed. It is a well- known fact that even in the last war the native Christians, despite the Turkish cautions, armed themselves and fought on the side of the Allies. In these conflicts, they were not idle, but they were well supplied with artillery, machine guns and inflicted heavy losses on their enemies…." [15]

Invoking the visionary leader Ataturk, who so aptly put it for the rest of us, may there be in the new year and beyond

”Peace At Home, Peace In The World”


Notes & References:

[1] Houshamatyan of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Centennial, Album-Atlas, Volume I, Epic Battles, 1890-1914, The Next Day Color Printing, Inc., Glendale, CA, U.S.A., 2006, page 186.

[2a] The Dictionary of WWI, Stephen Pope & Elizabeth-Anne Wheal, 2003, ISBN 0 85052 979-4, page 34

[2b] The Armenian Rebellion at Van, Justin McCarthy, Esat Arslan, Cemaletting Taskiran, Omer Turan (The University of Utah Press, Salt lake City, USA, 2006)

[2c] Free E-Book : "Genocide Of Truth" by Sukru Server Aya, Based On Neutral or Anti-Turkish Sources ( Istanbul Commerce University, Turkey, 2008) For a copy: Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/04/2429-new-e-book-genocide-of-truth-based.html

[3] Houshamatyan of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Centennial, Album-Atlas, Volume I, Epic Battles, 1890-1914, The Next Day Color Printing, Inc., Glendale, CA, U.S.A., 2006, page 45.

[4] Houshamatyan of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Centennial, Album-Atlas, Volume I, Epic Battles, 1890-1914, The Next Day Color Printing, Inc., Glendale, CA, U.S.A., 2006, page 241.

[5] AFATH : Armenian Falsifiers and Turk -Haters.

[6] www.ethocide.com : Ethocide, Not Genocide: www.turkiye.net:bbasol:sonyazi.htm
Soykirim Degil, Ahlakkirim : www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=323&yid=4

[7] ethocide.com:news.html : Ethocide: A new term coined by Ergun Kirlikovali, a Turkish-American student and researcher in history, on May 7, 2003, as a long needed companion term and an antonym for the term "genocide" created by Lemkin in 1943 (Turkish counterpart also coined: "AHLAKKIRIM")"Systematic extermination of ethics via malicious and deliberate mass deception for political, personal, economic, social, moral, religious, ethnic, national, regional, and other gain." Ethocide is a crime of conscience, committed by biased and bigoted individuals who subscribe to racist and dishonest interpretation of history and are intolerant of dissent. Called "ethociders", such people will openly resort to censorship of dissenting views and intimidation of dissenters.

[8] The Six Apologies Turks Have Been Waiting For Since WW1 : www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=302&yid=4

[9] If Facts Matter To You, Then Read This Analysis On H.Res. 252: www.historyoftruth.com:authors:ergun-kirlikovali:8393-if-facts-matter-to-you-then-read-this-analysis-on-hres-252

[10] Israeli & Jewish Sources That Refute The Alleged Armenian Genocide : www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=462&yid=4
[11] Declaration Signed By 69 Prominent American Academicians : http://www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=338&yid=4

[12] Massive Armenian Fraud Exposed … Again!: www.turkla.com/2010/10/15/massive-armenian-fraud-exposed-B€ -again

[13] Wikileaks Bombshell: Armenian Arms Sold To Iran Used In Killing Us Soldiers In Iraq: www.turkla.com/2010/11/29/wikileaks-bombshell-armenian-arms-sold-to-iran-used-in-killing-us-soldiers-in-iraq:
[14] Why Turkey is right in demanding the end to occupation in Karabakh:
news.az/articles/turkey/29003

[15] The Secret of the Near East, Lamsa, George M., a missionary well known for his research on Christianity, The Ideal Press, Philadelphia 1923, p 133

More References (which are not listed in the text above:)
[16] Bernard Lewis Speaking on Armenian Allegations, 3 min 29 sec - Oct 11, 2007: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4
[17] http://www.tallarmeniantale.com : Tall Armenian Tale - TAT : Supports the case against the Armenian Genocide Myth with mostly impartial evidence.
[18] www.turkishcoalition.org : The Turkish Coalition of America - TCA : Established in 2007, The Turkish Coalition of America (TCA) is working on matters related to Turkish American issues and Turkish Heritage.

[19] www.taldf.org : Turkish American Legal Defense Fund : TALDF is established in order to educate and advise Turkish Americans regarding their constitutionally guaranteed right to free expression. TALDF successfully defended rights of individuals harassed and slandered by Armenian(s) for rejecting bogus Armenian claims of genocide.

[20] www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr : Ermeni Sorunu means The Armenian Problem in Turkish. This site provides a detailed account of the problem and has extensive archive database. Also in French, German and Turkish.

[21] www.eraren.org : Institute For Armenian Research : ERAREN.org is the web site of Institute for Armenian Research where scholarly studies based on primary sources elucidate Armenian claims and falsifications.

[22] www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr : Turkish State Archives : One of the most comprehensive archives in the world and with all its massive references, it only give truth seekers a glimpse of what the Western scholars prejudicially ignored and Armenians falsifiers censored since 1915 and prior.

[23] www.turkla.com : comments on timely issues concerning the Turkish-Armenian conflict and provides a databank on sources and materials frequently censored by Armenian falsifiers and Turk haters.
[25] www.historyoftruth.com : comments on timely issues concerning the Turkish-Armenian conflict and provides a databank on sources and materials frequently censored by Armenian falsifiers and Turk haters

[26] www.turkishjournal.com : comments on timely issues concerning the art, culture, heritage, economy, industry, sports, and many other issues concerning Turkey and America.

[27] www.turkishny.com : comments on timely issues concerning the art, culture, heritage, economy, industry, sports, and many other issues concerning Turkey and America.

[28] www.mediawatchnow.com : comments on timely issues concerning the Turkish-Armenian conflict and provides talking points to refute articles that unfairly, unjustifiably, deliberately, and in an unprovoked manner defame and demonize Turkish heritage, Turkish Americans, Turks, Turkics, and Turkey.

[29] www.turkishalert.com : comments on timely issues concerning the Turkish-Armenian conflict and provides talking points to refute articles that unfairly, unjustifiably, deliberately, and in an unprovoked manner defame and demonize Turkish heritage, Turkish Americans, Turks, Turkics, and Turkey.
[30] History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey, Vol I & II, Stanford Shaw (Cambridge University Press, London, New York, Melbourne, 1976)

[31] The Story Behind Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story, Heath W. Lowry ( The Isis Press, Istanbul, Turkey, 1990)

[32] The Ottoman Peoples and the End of Empire, Justin McCarthy (Arnold, London, U.K., 2001

[33] Declaration Signed by 69 Prominent North American Academicians, New York Times and Washington Post, may 19, 1985 (for a copy: www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=338&yid=4

[34] Ermeniler: Sürgün ve Göç, Türk Tarih Kurumu (Ankara, Turkey, 2004)

[35] The Armenian File, Kamuran Gurun (Rustem Bookshop, Mersin, Turkey, 1985)

[36] The Armenians in History and the Armenian Question, Esat Uras (Documentary Publications, Istanbul, Turkey, 1988)

[37] “Pursuing the Just Cause of Their People”, Michael M. Gunter (Greenwood Press, New York, USA, 1986)

[38] “Ermenilerin Zorunlu Göçü, 1915-1917, Kemal Cicek (Turk tarih Kurumu, Ankara, Turkey, 2005)

[39] Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948: www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html (See how the AFATH community always invoke articles 1-3 which define genocide , but completely ignore articles 4-9 which dictate how the genocide verdict shall be reached: via “competent tribunal, not political resolutions! )

[40] Ergun KIRLIKOVALI, 2003, “It Was Not ‘Genocide’; It was - and still is – ‘Ethocide’ “, www.turkiye.net/bbasol/gorusler27.htm ;

[41] Ergun KIRLIKOVALI, 2003, “SOYKIRIM DEGIL, AHLAKKIRIM ”
( www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=323&yid=4 )

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Saturday, December 25, 2010

3193) Reconstruction in Turkey -1918- Compiled For The American Committee for Armenian & Syrian Relief

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Thursday, December 23, 2010

3192) Everything Nancy Did For Armenians Is Forgotten And She Became The New Prey

Posted on 8:40 AM by Unknown
Failure of Political Benefits in Armenian Genocide Resolution H Res.252
Image Credit: TruckTurkey


Updated Very last ANCA order to their followers:

Now, "Everything Nancy Did For Them" is forgotten and she became their new prey. James Barton, head of the Relief Organization and their long time father and president Woodrow Wilson had experienced an equal hatred and open insult when the ARF-Dashnak dreams could not materialize!


Don't doubt that they will find new actors to push these resolutions, as long as no one does anything to blow up their balloon of lies and fabrications!


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ANCA PRESS RELEASE / For Immediate Release, December 22, 2010, Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian, Tel: (202) 775-1918

Tell Speaker Pelosi what YOU think about her decision NOT TO schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution

PELOSI FAILS TO SCHEDULE VOTE ON ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RESOLUTION
-- House Democratic Leadership Blocks Bipartisan Majority from Voting on Genocide-Prevention Measure

WASHINGTON, DC - The U.S. House Democratic Leadership failed today to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution, H,Res.252, despite support for this human rights measure from a broad bipartisan majority, killing the prospects for the passage of this legislation during this session of Congress, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

ANCA Chairman Ken Hachikian issued the following statement in response to U.S. House Democratic Leadership's decision:

“Armenian Americans are angered and disappointed by the failure of Speaker Pelosi and the House Democratic leadership to honor their commitment to allow a bipartisan majority to vote for passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution.”

“Speaker Pelosi clearly had the majority, the authority, and the opportunity to pass the Armenian Genocide Resolution, yet refused to allow a vote on this human rights measure.”
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"The Speaker chose not to move forward, in the face of broad bipartisan backing for this human rights measure, including from the current House leadership and the incoming Majority Leader and Majority Whip, and despite both the relatively muted opposition from the White House, and the fact that Turkey's effectiveness in opposing its adoption was seriously undermined by controversial policies on the part of Ankara toward Iran, Israel, and Sudan that have angered lawmakers."

“Her decision to not move this legislation forward during her four years as Speaker represents a failure of Congressional leadership on human rights and, sadly, a setback to America's standing in the struggle to end the cycle of genocide.”

“Coming in the wake of President Obama's string of broken promises to recognize the Armenian Genocide, Speaker Pelosi's refusal to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution represents a major breach of trust with Armenian American voters.”

“Although sharply disappointed by the Speaker's unwillingness to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution, we were, throughout this session of Congress, tremendously encouraged by the scope and depth of support for the Armenian Genocide Resolution, not only from a bipartisan majority of Congress but also from a growing cross-section of American civil society. We look forward to building on our progress and to continuing the work of the Armenian American community for a strong U.S. moral stand on the Armenian Genocide, an end to Turkey's campaign of denial, and a truthful and just resolution of this still unpunished crime against the Armenian nation.”


House Democratic Leadership Blocks Bipartisan Majority from Voting on Genocide-Prevention Measure Asbarez

WASHINGTON – The U.S. House Democratic Leadership failed today to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution, H,Res.252, despite support for this human rights measure from a broad bipartisan majority, killing the prospects for the passage of this legislation during this session of Congress, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

ANCA Chairman Ken Hachikian issued the following statement in response to U.S. House Democratic Leadership’s decision:

“Armenian Americans are angered and disappointed by the failure of Speaker Pelosi and the House Democratic leadership to honor their commitment to allow a bipartisan majority to vote for passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution.”

“Speaker Pelosi clearly had the majority, the authority, and the opportunity to pass the Armenian Genocide Resolution, yet refused to allow a vote on this human rights measure.”

“The Speaker chose not to move forward, in the face of broad bipartisan backing for this human rights measure, including from the current House leadership and the incoming Majority Leader and Majority Whip, and despite both the relatively muted opposition from the White House, and the fact that Turkey’s effectiveness in opposing its adoption was seriously undermined by controversial policies on the part of Ankara toward Iran, Israel, and Sudan that have angered lawmakers.”

“Her decision to not move this legislation forward during her four years as Speaker represents a failure of Congressional leadership on human rights and, sadly, a setback to America’s standing in the struggle to end the cycle of genocide.”

“Coming in the wake of President Obama’s string of broken promises to recognize the Armenian Genocide, Speaker Pelosi’s refusal to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution represents a major breach of trust with Armenian American voters.”

“Although sharply disappointed by the Speaker’s unwillingness to schedule a vote on the Armenian Genocide Resolution, we were, throughout this session of Congress, tremendously encouraged by the scope and depth of support for the Armenian Genocide Resolution, not only from a bipartisan majority of Congress but also from a growing cross-section of American civil society. We look forward to building on our progress and to continuing the work of the Armenian American community for a strong U.S. moral stand on the Armenian Genocide, an end to Turkey’s campaign of denial, and a truthful and just resolution of this still unpunished crime against the Armenian nation.”

The 111th Congress came to a close without a vote on the so-called "Armenian Genocide Resolution" (H.Res. 252).

Last Friday, Turkish Americans were alerted to the possibility of a vote under Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s leadership during the final hours of the 111th Congress. A rapid action alert set-up by the TCA enabled Turkish American constituents and friends of Turkey to voice their opposition to Members of Congress, as well as the Democratic Leadership. The ATAA, FTAA and TCA joint nationwide campaign drew thousands of letters and calls from Turkish Americans. Leading members of the Congressional Caucus on US Turkish Relations and Turkish Americans called attention to the negative consequences of passage of H.Res. 252 on U.S.-Turkish relations and played a major role in the outcome.

“TCA applauds the leadership of the Congressional Turkish Caucus, its membership and above all the Turkish American community that came together as never before. We thank all Turkish American national and local organizations across the country, as well as our friends in the Azerbaijani community, for moving quickly and in unity on this issue. Our combined efforts have added the Turkish American voice, stronger than ever, to this important debate,” said G. Lincoln McCurdy, TCA president.
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Monday, December 20, 2010

3191) Disclaimer Letters from Prof Cemil Koçak: Ref: Ataturk

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The news article written by Kemal Baytaş as published on Nov 14, 2010 of Sözcü Newspaper which claims to reflect my statements given at a conference in Sabancı University is completely untrue. Those statements or similar expressions were not used, during the two and a half hour long conference that I held regarding the causes of World War-I, the war itself and the Ottoman battlefields while also touching upon the Çanakkale and Gelibolu battles. It is unfortunate that one of the spectators interpreted the things spoken the way he wished to hear them and attributed his interpretation to me. What is more saddening is that the media sometimes takes such slanderous interpretations which are untrue and publishes them without the necessary investigation. Unfortunately my speech has been distorted and shaped into a violent assault to my personality.

During my long conference I
. . . had mentioned the following:

During the last section of my long speech where I was touching upon the Gelibolu land battles, I spoke of Yarbay Mustafa Kemal Bey which was his official title at the time. Do I need to explain that historians need to use the official titles of the spoken time?

While describing the story of Atatürk’s re-assignment to Gelibolu, I also mentioned how much effort he had to exert to get back to active military duty, because Enver Paşa politically opposed such assignments as the Commander in Chief and a leading figure in the İttihad and Terakki Organization. At the end of my speech, I mentioned how he arrived there eventually and described how he was “rewarded” with a small token of commander title.

Following these, I also mentioned, how he won the admiration of German Army Commander Sanders as a result of his performance during the April 24 battles, how he was promoted from the rear field commanding position following the first battles and that it was Sanders who watched over and protected him. I also mentioned that if it was left to Enver Paşa’s decision, he could have been forced to retire from the army and possibly spend the rest of his life as a civilian. During my speech, I had sufficed to convey the evaluation of Enver Paşa at the time. I had expressed the importance of these facts while evaluating the political competition between the two, during the political phase ehich ensued the battles and drew attention to how an unfortunate situation this has been, politically and militarily. So, the expression of (un)qualified does not belong to me, but to Enver Paşa.

I also explained, how we started to commemorate the anniversary of Çanakkale battles during the 1930’s, following the diplomatic crisis which broke out between the two countries when the Germans started to assume credit for the Çanakkale Victory. I also mentioned that this was not the only battlefront for the Turks, during World War-I and many losses occurred in various battlefronts, and that we even started to commemorate Sarıkamış losses in recent years, as well as my desire that other losses should also be mentioned in commemoration ceremonies.

I consider it a duty and ethical responsibility to inform the readers.

Respectfully,

Prof. Dr. Cemil Koçak
Sabancı University
Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences


Disclaimer Letter No: 2 from Cemil Koçak
ckocak at sabanciuniv dot edu wrote on December 17, 2010


I used my right for reply and declared that none of the items attributed to me in the internet sites belong to me.

I sent my official declaration signed in front of a notary public to these web sites.
My first denial came on Wednesday night during live televised interview with Habertürk TV Program.

My denial letter will be published in the Radikal newspaper this Sunday.
I will continue to deny the news in all TV channels that I am invited.

In the meantime, I am including below a note that I received from Dear Ms. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ:

“Thanks for your denial. I think, it should also be sent to the newspaper as well. It is too late to undo the damage, but it is still better than none. From what you describe, you went into great details of the war while addressing the parents of the student as if you are talking to historians. For this reason you must have been forced to skip the basics or they were lost among these minute details. A two and a haşf hour conference must be difficult on listeners as well as the lecturer.

Congratulations.

Muazzez”


I wrote a special e-mail to her thanking for her nice thoughts. Upon my request she accepted a gift of my books to her.

I hope that Muazzez Hanım’s polite manners, kind thoughtfulness will be an inspiration to all who sent me messages of insult and threat.

I thank all of those who called or e-mailed me to check the veracity of the news for their inquisitive life philosophy.

Those who are ready to believe rumors and make believe stories at all times, and sent me ill mannered e-mails addressing with slanders should know that such words belong to those who utter them. I wish a long life to those who sent me threat letters. Just like the poet said; I am not saying that I wish you turn blind; on the contrary do not turn blind, so that you can see me…

As an academician who has been publishing for over 30 years, my personal feelings about the Gelibolu battles are contained in the article of Toplumsal Tarih Journal, June 2005 which can be obtained from libraries, the internet or Tarih Vakfı. It is obvious that 5 years ago I had dispelled such false news reports written about me.

For those who are curious, let me mention that I organized this trip(?) 10 times.

I am giving a partial list of my publications.

This list displays my honor of my scholarly view as an academician. No false news report can take them away from me!

I wish to live in a world cleansed of ill attitude.

You would greatly, contribute to dispelling of the bad news regarding me, if you would distribute this message of mine to the mail groups which contain the slanderous news about me.

Respectfully,
Prof. Dr. Cemil Koçak

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Wednesday, December 15, 2010

3190) Unreconciled Differences: Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan

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By Former professional soldier, Scott Taylor, editor and publisher of Esprit de Corps


Written by former Canadian Soldier turned war correspondent Scott Taylor, this book is based both on in depth historical research and on Taylor's personal findings on reporting trips to the area speaking with followers leaders and everything in between on both sides of the conflict.


During the Past century, there have been two major clashes in the Anatolia-Caucasus region, both resulting in the widespread slaughter and forced expulsion of innocent civilians from all sides. The first occurred when the strain of the Great War caused the collapse of both the Ottoman Empire and Czarist Russia.

The second conflict erupted between 1988 - 1994, when the disintegration of the Soviet Union left a temporary power vacuum in the Caucasus, and the new republics of Azerbaijan and Armenia battled over the sovereignty of Nagorno-Karabakh.

What these two confilcts also share is that few in the West have observed, chronicled, or been able to fully understand the complexity of the situation. Those existing accounts are rife with partisan propaganda and widely divergent assessments

Unfortunately, the unreconciled differences of their shared history continue to negatively impact the lives of the Turks, Armenians and Azeris in the present. If left unresolved, this will prevent their progress towards a peaceful and mutually beneficial coexistence in the future.



Unreconciled Differences: Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan
Scott Taylor - Publisher

Throughout the mid-1990s, this little independent magazine embarked on a campaign to expose crime and corruption in the upper echelons of the Canadian Forces. After exposing a number of top-level cover-ups and scandals while defending the rights of the rank and file soldiers, Scott was dubbed the “Voice of the Grunts” by the Globe and Mail, a “Bone in the Brass’ Throats” by the Toronto Star, and a “One Man Army” by the Toronto Sun.

Since the inception of Esprit de Corps, Scott has logged over one million air miles as a war correspondent reporting from such global hot spots as the Persian Gulf, Cambodia, Western Sahara, Croatia, Bosnia, Iraq, Turkey, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Macedonia, South Ossetia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan.

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Since August 2000, Scott has made a total of 21 trips into Iraq to report on the effects of the UN sanctions, the ravages of depleted uranium following the 1991 Gulf War, and the heightening tensions with the United States. In March 2003, during his last trip prior to the United States’ intervention, Scott Taylor was asked to leave Iraq for fear of his being a spy for the Israeli Mossad. Following the swift U.S. victory, Scott returned frequently to Iraq to view first-hand the ongoing humanitarian crisis plaguing this still embattled country. Then, for five harrowing days in September 2004, he experienced the rare occasion when "getting the story becomes the story." Held captive by Ansar al-Islam mujahedeen in northern Iraq, his release generated a wave of international media coverage. He then returned to Iraq in 2005 in order to brief the U.S. soldiers on the Turkmen people of the country.

Scott regularly appears in the Canadian media as a military analyst, and is the recipient of the 1996 Quill Award for outstanding work in the field of Canadian communications. That same year, he also won the Alexander MacKenzie Award for journalistic excellence.

A weekly columnist for the Halifax Chronicle-Herald, he is also a columnist for Embassy Magazine and has contributed to the Ottawa Citizen, Maclean’s magazine, the Globe and Mail, Toronto Sun, Reader’s Digest, and the Global television network as well as several international publications which include the Magyar Nemzet, Indian Defense Review and Al Jazeera. He also serves as an advisor to the CBC Radio play "Afghanada." Scott also gives presentations to The Executive Committee (TEC) and was named their 2006 Speaker of the Year. In 2008, London based Press TV declared Taylor to be the 'unembedded journalist of the year'



During the Past century, ther have been two major clashes in the Anatolia-Caucasus region, both resulting in the widespread slaughter and forced expulsion of innocent civilians from all sides. The first ocurred when the strain of the Great War caused the collapse of both the Ottoman Empire and Czarist Russia. The second conflict erupted between 1988 - 1994, when the disintegration of the Soviet Union left a temporary power vacuum in the Caucasus, and the new republics of Azerbaijan and Armenia battled over the sovereignty of Nagorno-Karabakh. What these two confilcts also share is that few in the West have observed, chronicled, or been able to fully understand the complexity of the situation. Those existing accounts are rife with partisan propaganda and widely divergent assessments. Unfortunately, the unreconciled differences of their shared history continue to negatively impact the lives of the Turks, Armenians and Azeris in the present. If left unresolved, this will prevent their progress towards a peaceful and mutually beneficial coexistence in the future. This book draws from historical research and personal investigation conducted by author/journalist Scott Taylor in order to better understand the contextual realities of these conflicts as well as why so little about them is known in the west.

About the Author
A former professional soldier, Scott Taylor has been editor and publisher of Esprit de Corps since 1988. Throughout the mid-1990s, this little independent magazine embarked on a campaign to expose crime and corruption in the upper echelons of the Canadian Forces. After exposing a number of top-level cover-ups and scandals while defending the rights of the rank and file soldiers, Scott was dubbed the Voice of the Grunts by the Globe and Mail, a Bone in the Brass Throats by the Toronto Star, and a One Man Army by the Toronto Sun. Since the inception of Esprit de Corps, Scott has logged over one million air miles as a war correspondent reporting from such global hot spots as the Persian Gulf, Cambodia, Western Sahara, Croatia, Bosnia, Iraq, Turkey, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan. Since August 2000, Scott has made a total of 21 trips into Iraq to report on the effects of the UN sanctions, the ravages of depleted uranium following the 1991 Gulf War, and the heightening tensions with the United States. In March 2003, during his last trip prior to the United States intervention, Scott Taylor was asked to leave Iraq for fear of his being a spy for the Israeli Mossad. Following the swift U.S. victory, Scott returned frequently to Iraq to view first-hand the ongoing humanitarian crisis plaguing this still embattled country. Then, for five harrowing days in September 2004, he experienced the rare occasion when 'getting the story becomes the story.' Held captive by Ansar al-Islam mujahedeen in northern Iraq, his release generated a wave of international media coverage. He then returned to Iraq in 2005 in order to brief the U.S. soldiers on the Turkmen people of the country.



Scott regularly appears in the Canadian media as a military analyst, and is the recipient of the 1996 Quill Award for outstanding work in the field of Canadian communications. That same year, he also won the Alexander MacKenzie Award for journalistic excellence. A weekly columnist for the Halifax Chronicle-Herald, he is also a columnist for the Osprey newspaper chain and has contributed to the Ottawa Citizen, Maclean s magazine, the Globe and Mail, Toronto Sun, Reader s Digest, and the Global television network as well as several international publications. He also serves as an advisor to the CBC Radio play "Afghanada." Scott also gives presentations to The Executive Committee (TEC) and was named their 2006 Speaker of the Year. Taylor is the author of five best-sellers Tarnished Brass: Crime and Corruption in the Canadian Military, Tested Mettle: Canada s Peacekeepers at War (both with Brian Nolan), Inat: Images of Serbia, Diary of an Uncivil War: The Violent Aftermath of the Kosovo Conflict and Spinning on the Axis of Evil: America's War against Iraq. He is the author of Among the 'Others': the forgotten Turkmen of Iraq which deals with his experiences in northern Iraq, published in October 2004 by Esprit de Corps Books. In the spring of 2009 Douglas and MacIntyre published his first memoir entitled Unembedded: Two decades of Maverick War Reporting.

Canadian war journalist Scott Taylor: Armenia can't move on forward with closed borders 09 February 2010

Exclusive interview with former professional soldier, Canadian war correspondent, and editor and publisher of the Esprit de Corps magazine, Scott Taylor.

Scott Taylor has been editor and publisher of Esprit de Corps since 1988. Since the inception of Esprit de Corps, Scott has logged over one million air miles as a war correspondent reporting from such global hot spots as the Persian Gulf, Cambodia, Western Sahara, Croatia, Bosnia, Iraq, Turkey, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan.

Since August 2000, Taylor has made a total of 21 trips into Iraq to report on the effects of the UN sanctions, the ravages of depleted uranium following the 1991 Gulf War, and the heightening tensions with the United States. In March 2003, during his last trip prior to the United States’ intervention, Scott Taylor was asked to leave Iraq for fear of his being a spy for the Israeli Mossad. Following the swift U.S. victory, Scott returned frequently to Iraq to view first-hand the ongoing humanitarian crisis plaguing this still embattled country. Then, for five harrowing days in September 2004, he experienced the rare occasion when "getting the story becomes the story." Held captive by Ansar al-Islam mujahedeen in northern Iraq, his release generated a wave of international media coverage.

In an exclusive interview, Mr. Taylor speaks about the infamous Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and other issues.

As far as I know, this is not your first visit to Azerbaijan. What was the main purpose of you writing the book “Unreconciled Differences”?

The main purpose I think, is to readdress what I believe is an inbound on reporting on the region, mostly on the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh region, between Azerbaijan and Armenia. In every conflict situation I’ve covered in the past, there’s always the other side of the story. Each side has their own story, and truth is somewhere in between. For us, in the West, most of what we hear about the incidents and events between Azerbaijan and Armenia, comes from Armenian side. And looking closely at it, I realized, that there was a vacuum of information, that it was not the full story. The book is of course a small void, but I thought, I’d at least make people realize that this is not the full story of what happened.

Now, from your point of view, how at the present time do you assess the possibility of a military action between Armenia and Azerbaijan? Lets put it like this – if you had the last call, would you even consider this option?

In this particular case, Azerbaijan has the right to claim their own territory.

As far as I am concerned, just a couple of days ago, you were hosted by the International Strategic Research Organization (USAK), and you touched a number of topics during your lecture, including the Nagorno-Karabakh issue. The opinions of the foreign experts differ, some say that the conflict problem is directly connected with the possible opening of the Turkish-Armenian border, some say the opposite. What is your opinion on this?

Well, I think they are connected. Originally, shutting the borders happened because of the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia, for Nagorno-Karabakh. And as a result, it became clear, that there won’t be any movements on the border opening, until Armenia leaves the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Now that there’s a softening, Azerbaijan has the right to be somewhat fearful that the pressure on Armenia will become lesser. At the same time, Armenia has got its own issues, with Turkey.

Both parties have to abandon some of their hardline, I am not sure that either party can do that, given their domestic political issues. The fact, that they are trying to move forward, is a good sign, but as I mention in my book, the past has to be reconsidered, and it will require far more admission on the Armenian side. In order to find this historical truth about the events of 1915, both Turkey and Armenia have to be able to share the information.

During the same lecture, you mentioned the so called Armenian “genocide”, and what you said was “History should be decided by historians and not by foreign governments”...

I mean, if you pull back from the hardliners, the Turks have made far more headway, because they are being accused of something so extreme. As you know, Armenians all over the world are claiming that this was “genocide”, and to be honest, being a Canadian, I am ashamed that the Canadian parliament recognized the “genocide”, without knowing all the needed details. In fact, the Canadians have gone even further ahead that the Armenians, which are still, in theory, prepared to make the re-approachment with the protocols, with Turkey. Canadian government monitors Caucasus from Moscow and Turkey, they don’t have any representation in the Caucasus at all. This is a situation, where I can just state the obvious – we don’t know a thing about Caucasus. The same can be said about Russia and Georgia, you cant just state that this player is good, and this one is bad, it is a lot more difficult than that.

Even with Armenia, and Nagorno-Karabakh, when I interviewed them, the people in Karabakh are a lot different from people in Yerevan. Most people from the elite of Yerevan are formally from Nagorno-Karabakh, and they have their own independent mindsets, but some other, more pragmatic Armenians from Yerevan do understand, that it’s time to move on forward, and you cant do that with closed borders, and its impossible to rely forever on the cash donations from diaspora. But, if you offend the diaspora by making a reapproachment with Turkey and Azerbaijan, they will simply turn their back on you. And then, what are you going to replace the incoming money with? In long term, including pipelines and the normalized neighborly relations it can turn out well, but until that the country will be in big debts, poverty and such for the next 20 years. And no one is prepared for that.

While we are on the subject, what can, in your opinion, happen close to the date of 24th of April, which is considered the “genocide” date for Armenians? Should any major movements on Armenian-Turkish relations be expected?

I don’t think there has been any movement so far, on the Armenian side. So far it’s too soon to state anything. The protocols were a step forward, but this is going to be a game of inches, because in Caucasus, everyone has a gun pointed at someone else’s head. Everyone wants to lower that gun down, but they can't.

Russia is considered one of the major players in the SC region, and so is Turkey. With all the other problems to deal with (such as AFG, IRAQ), it seems like US began to lose its power in the South Caucasus region. Do you believe it is so?

Up until now, the America has been the only real superpower. Until the Cold War. Now, the US are far too stretched – they have to deal with Afghanistan, they have to deal with Iraq, and Iran for example is not even afraid of being attacked by the US, since, they are too stretched thin to mount any new operation. At this particular time everyone realized, that America is vulnerable. They can simply keep printing money, but it doesn’t solve all the problems. Again, if your interests include to get to the Caspian oil, then you better understand Caucasus. And the more research I do, the less I realize I know. Caucasus is a real minefield.

In your opinion, can we think of some kind of pressure coming from the West towards Turkey, in order to open the borders with Armenia?

It is possible. How Armenia is able to hold on to good relations with America, when they are friends with Iran, and Russia? Normally, when you are friends with either Russia or Iran, to US you are on a blacklist. Armenia is friends with all of them, because of the diaspora in the US. By itself, Armenia is basically resourceless, and here you have Azerbaijan, which is oil rich, and has his ways with the pipelines through Georgia, etc. How does Armenia manage to keep this in the balance, it’s all diaspora’s work. So, yes, I believe there might be some pressure coming from the US towards Turkey on the opening of the borders matter.

How do you assess the current negotiation process on the Karabakh conflict between Armenian and Azerbaijani presidents?

There’s always talks. There is no movement. If something happens quickly – It will come with violence. But, let’s put it like this – as long as there are talks, at least people aren’t dying. It is in Armenia’s interest to delay the negotiation process, because the longer they do that, the longer they keep the occupied territories empty. And I’ve seen them – they destroyed all, for them it’s better to keep it this way, so the people of Azerbaijan, will not come back, and try to rebuild everything from scratch. Armenians are trying to populate the region, which the Azeris should be concerned about. Right now, the time is on the side of Armenians.

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17 March 2011 Update

Scott Taylor: Armenians threatened me with death for not saying 'Armenian genocide'

Seminar “Azerbaijan-Armenia-Turkey, Unreconciled Differences” organized by Azerbaijani Federation in Sweden and the Union of Turkish Federations in Sweden was held in Stockholm, the capital of Sweden, press service of the State Committee for Diaspora told.

Scott Taylor, Canadian journalist, who covered a number of military operations, was the main guest and speaker of the seminar. The previews of the documentaries made by Scott Taylor about Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa and former Yugoslavia were screened at the outset of the event. Following this, detailed information will be given about the book “Unreconciled Differences: Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan”. Scott Taylor said he faced difficulties for writing this book and said the Armenian communities became angry and threatened him because he did not say “Armenian genocide”. Canadian journalist said the Armenian community threatened him with dismissal, then with death, and even threatened his family.

Scott Taylor said recognition of the “Armenian genocide” by the parliaments of Canada and Sweden was connected with the domestic policy factors.

“The French population of Canada underwent genocide by the English in 1837, thousands of people were killed, there is censor concerning this genocide in the English literature and sources in Canada, while the country’s parliament recognizes the “Armenian genocide”, which has not been confirmed by a number of scientists. This is a double standard and can not be accepted,” he said.

The Canadian journalist said the Armenian Diaspora abroad is much more nationalist than the Armenians living in Armenia. According to him, Karabakh and the surrounding regions of Azerbaijan were occupied by Armenia due to the financial aid of the Armenian Diaspora.

“If the UN imposes sanctions on financial aids to Armenia, this occupation may finish soon,” he said.

Scott Taylor said his next book will be about South Azerbaijan.

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3189) An 81-Year Old Chevalier: Şükrü Server Aya: A One-man Army Wrestling Armenian Fanatics

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  1. Summary Of New Book Release Meeting At Turksam For The Genocide Of Truth Continues Authored By Sükrü Server Aya
  2. An 81-Year Old Chevalier by Tufan Türenç, Translated from Hurriyet, December 13, 2010
  3. Sükrü Server Aya: A One-man Army Wrestling Armenian Fanatics
  4. Book on Armenian falsifications presented in Ankara
  5. BOOK Presentation Speech - TURKSAM - Ankara
  6. Open Acknowledgment and Thanks
  7. Presentation Slide Show
  8. Book Presentation Review By Yuksel Oktay-2 - The Genocide of Truth Continues..But Facts Tell the Real Story – By Sükrü Server Aya, Published by Derin Yayinevi. 2010, 16 January 2011, Bizim Tepe I.stanbul
  9. Book Presentation Review By Yuksel Oktay 1- The Genocide of Truth Continues..But Facts Tell the Real Story – By Sükrü Server Aya, Published by Derin Yayinevi. 15 December 2010, Ankara
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An 81-Year Old Chevalier by Tufan Türenç
Translated from Hurriyet, December 13, 2010

Şükrü Server Aya: A One-man Army Wrestling Armenian Fanatics


At his age you would expect him to relax and lounge in a leisurely manner, but instead he is a shining knight waging a war.

Aya is a graduate of Robert College with impeccable command of English.

After graduation he started his own business, which he liquidated upon retirement.

Suspicions about the Armenian allegations started to occupy his mind.

He started a research, in an effort to bring out the truth regarding the events of 1915.

Prior to starting this research, he asked himself the following questions:

“Did the events unfold the way Armenians portray them on the world stage?
Did the Turks commit genocide?
OR is this an attempt to execute a nation without a trial?”
During his school years and business life, Aya had many buddies and colleagues of Armenian descent.

He worked hard for years to discover the truth hidden behind lies, forged documents and slanders, and also be able to look at his friends straight in the eyes.

He combed through almost all the books, articles and Armenian documents disseminated globally on this subject.

After years of difficult and tiresome work, he collected countless documents and information that nullify

Armenian allegations, shedding light on their lies.

What surprised Aya was that most of these documents came from Turkish Armenians.

Hundreds of articles which were published on the Internet became insufficient to disseminate the overwhelming amount of information that he obtained from his research.

In the end, he decided to write a book.

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Aya has written three books until now, two of them in English.

Printing of his latest book: The Genocide of Truth Continues was completed a few days ago, using his own resources in spite of financial difficulties.

He dedicated his book to those who defend the TRUTH!
His health being far from perfect, 81-year old Şükrü Server Aya is revealing to the whole world the facts that he discovered from credible sources.

In his latest book, he explains, based on information gathered from documents he collected throughout the years, how a group of Armenians from Anatolia were duped into fighting against the Ottoman Empire.

Armed with documents from various sources, he is refuting the falsified distorted documents that some fanatic Armenians spread to the world as proof of their allegations.

He is exposing how the US Genocide Holocaust Memorial Museum in the USA is misled and
politicized.

He is disclosing the real face of the US Ambassador Morgenthau and his misdeeds.
He brings to light with documents from foreign sources, how fanatic Armenians and the Church use religion to collect financial sources.

In the light of his research, Aya poses the following question:
“Have the fanatic Armenians been collecting donations for a century, in order to wage war, OR are they fueling the battle and current animosity (which reached incredible proportions) for the sake of making money? collecting donations?

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Şükrü Server Aya is a courageous knight who is fighting all by himself.
Aside from a few close friends, no one is aiding him.
He is not bothered by any of this. Despite his health problems, he is following the path that he chose.

On December 15, Aya will introduce his new book The Genocide of Truth Continues at the conference hall of TURKSAM (International Relations and Strategic Analysis Center – a Think Tank organization) in Ankara).

One of our Culture Ministers, and an author himself, Mr. Talat Halman and the president of TURKSAM
Mr. Sinan Oğan will also speak at the meeting.
While Şükrü Server Aya is battling lies to bring us the truth at his age, some important tasks are upon us.
We must do what we can to help distribute Mr. Aya’s books all over the world. This is a duty for everyone born and raised in these land.
Let us not leave the “mature youngster” all by himself.

NOTE: Şükrü Server Aya can be reached at:
ssaya at superonline dot com / ssaya01 at gmail dot com / ssaya01 at yahoo dot com


Book on Armenian falsifications presented in Ankara
Thu 16 December 2010
Presentation Of Book Exposing Falsification Of Armenians Took Place In Ankara.

Presentation of the book by known publicist Shukru Server Aya "The Truth of Genocide continues…" took place at office of the Center of Strategic Researches of Turkey (TURKSAM), Ankara.

Speaking at the ceremony,Mr. Sinan Ogan, chairman of TURKSAM, underlined that in the book of the 80-year-old author on the basis of incontestable facts exposed are far-fetched statements about the "Genocide of Armenians", and is narrated about the atrocities made by the Armenian gangster groups in the East Anatolia and in Azerbaijan.

The former minister of culture of Turkey Talat Halman said that the book includes the facts exposing lie of Armenians. One opinion of the author is especially noteworthy. He writes: "The Armenian fanatics who make the statements about genocide, collect money for struggle, and may be continue this struggle and enmity for the sake of money?".

In the book on the basis of the presented foreign sources the author narrates how the Armenian Church and lobby use the religious factor for this purpose.

AzerTAj
“The Genocide of Truth” (Vol.1) book was written by compiling information from neutral or anti-Turkish sources, which could be found through the middle of the year 2007.

Istanbul Commerce University, with its own resources printed 3000 copies of the book which have been distributed gratis to all Turkish Universities and few Universities overseas. Book presentation was made in early 2008.

The book was also put on the E-library of the Armenian Genocide Resource Center ( http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/ ) and made available to the whole world.

I understand there has been more than 5000 downloads from the electronic library, ninety percent from outside of Turkey.

The book comprises more than 2000 verbatim book or original document excerpts. So far, no party claimed that even ONE excerpt is not true!

New documents and sources which have been uncovered “after publishing my first book”, did not only RECONFIRM the TRUTH of EVERYTHING written in there BUT BROUGHT NEW KNOWLEDGE and DOCUMENTS which is shared with readers in this “continuation and final volume in the set!”

Sukru Server Aya

BOOK Presentation Speech - TURKSAM - Ankara
Ladies and Gentlemen, Dec. 15, 2010

I thank you all for attending this presentation and taking interest in the subject which was summarized in the booklet provided.

My host Mr. Sinan Ogan a well informed young strategist and president of TURKSAM and another even more reputed and respected person on all world affairs involving studies humane values and world literature, Professor Halman (also UNICEF director in Turkey) have already explained why you have been invited. There is not much that I can say to what they already said.

As you may already know by now, I am no scholar, historian, writer or politician, but I have been a good and “concerned reader” of many books with shallow lectures or distortion of facts many times to extremities of logic and physical possibility. When you read many different opinions and irrefutable documents, you start to realize that many reputed writers have not done their home-works promptly by double-triple checking the knowledge made available to them! What they easily do is to take some writers for granted and repeat the same errors, which act in “domino effect” !.

If the researchers do not check the evidences behind statements, they prefer to take shelter under vague defenses, such as “so many parliaments” or “overwhelming majority” which should have spoken the truth!. If you doubt any of these biased or brilliantly packaged statements you are tagged as a vile “denialist” and not as a decent “conformist” like the majority which has been brain stormed for decades. Should we fall in such traps and be duped by those?

Gentlemen we all know that Jesus was crucified by overwhelming majority and so many Muslims were stoned to death or Ku Klux Klan’s burned and killed or innocent persons were lynched by mobs, without the right of defense or hearing the opposite arguments. Unfortunately, “innocent until proven guilty” principle does not apply in politics!

In short Gentlemen, my objective over the years has always been not to accuse or defend any faith or nationality or race. I hate racists and religious fanatics, who prefer to hide behind stale ideologies or books. I respect those using their own intelligence, respecting ethical and human values, such as NOT TO LIE but SPEAK THE TRUTH and defend the innocents, against charlatans of GLOBAL ETHICS.

Rather than making a long boring speech, I ask you to kindly watch the Power Point presentation giving a hopscotch picture of the past centuries. I have attached a couple of short movie clips that were presented in the blog site of Armenian Genocide Resource Center, and which are self explanatory and show that my attempt to wake up the “decent people to drop their prejudices” and be prudent and neutral, is right!

After you watch these presentations, I will be happy to answer your questions. The knowledge I have compiled throughout years and reading scanning tens of thousands of pages of relative documents give me the confidence that all parts of this puzzle have surfaced and fit in and there are no more secrets, unless new documents surface to annul the pyramidal mount of existing non Turkish documents from neutral or anti-Turkish sources.

To make the best of time and handle as many questions as possible, I prefer to have questions written and sent to the moderator, to be handled in the first round. Verbal questions If we have enough time left, I welcome short verbal questions. If time will allow and after answering all questions posed to me, the moderator may probably
permit few of our inspired guests to express their own personal opinions in very short speeches so that we may share knowledge by a friendly and mature dialogue.

Personally, if I can be made convinced by strong documents annulling the ones I have based by studies, it will be my “duty of honor” to support the “genocide” verdict by hearsays. Until such time, we a small group of “concerned people to set the records straight” in the world, including the blog site of Armenian Genocide Resource Center we have to defend the TRUTH for the sake of the destitute Armenians in Armenia, tens of thousands working illegally in Turkey, and a sizeable group of Turkish Citizens who happen to be of another ethnicity or faith. They were my faithful friends yesterday and they are today, despite the outside infiltrations again to disrupt peace and I struggle for them, as much as they trust and understand me.

Life is too short and valuable to waste on hatred, grudge and lies…
We must be aware that in every country-nation-race or faith there can always be charlatans or criminals exploiting our sincerity and good wishes… The Reno Evening Gazette writer had expressed all these facts on Nov. 14, 1915 issue and had warned all Americans “not to be duped by these lies and stories of charlatans who are professional beggars only for their own self, selling fabricated stories.”

Open Acknowledgment and Thanks to:

* Distinguished Scholars Sam S. Baskett, Justin McCarthy, and Jeremy Salt, for their kind acknowledgement of my sincere efforts

* Lara Kaplan, Seda Goulizar and Murat Ürguplu for their support at “armenians-1915.blogspot.com” and also to “angelsof1915.blogspot.com”

* “cptstrs” friends: Sevgin and Yuksel Oktay, Dr. Mustafa S. Atac, M. Nuri Yildirim, Fatma Sarıkaya, Melih Berk and Prof. Talat S. Halman for their whole hearted help and solidarity in preparation of this book with our modest means.

* Acknowledgment and thanks for data, photographs and maps provided in the blog sites of:
  • “Tallarmeniantale”, http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/
  • “Armenian Genocide Resource Center” http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/
  • “TruckTurkey” http://angelsof1915.blogspot.com/
  • and/or books “Armenian Mythomania”, (Erich Feigl-Austria) and
  • “History of Armenian Revolutionary Federation”
  • (Hratch Dasnabedian) and referred sources or other friends who shared my efforts when asked.
Sukru Server Aya








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Book Presentation -2 - The Genocide of Truth Continues..But Facts Tell the Real Story – By Sükrü Server Aya, Published by Derin Yayınevi. 2010

16 January 2011, Bizim Tepe İstanbul

A second presentation of the above referenced book took place at Robert College Alumni Center Bizim Tepe, on a rainy Sunday afternoon n İstanbul (1). The notice for the presentation was received from Talas mail group (the second 2050 group, forwarding the message from the first 1889 group). with a message that a note for attendance should be sent to Selim Kalafat, a Talas graduate, which I duly did (2).

Getting to Yeditepe via public transport from Kozyatağı was not easy but fun – taking a minibus to Üsküdar, than a boat across the Bosphorous to Beşiktaş, spending a couple of hours at the magnificent Bahçeşehir University Barbaros Library near the piers, full of students on a Sunday, bus to Arnavutköy and lunch at the corner restaurant near the bus stop and a chance encounter.

I ordered menemen since I had not had breakfast yet and after reading several newspapers, I asked the attendant where Bizim Tepe was, a place I had never been before. He did not know, but a young lady across from my table said, ‘’It is high on the hill, near Ulus, and the easiest way is to go through our garden.’’. After they paid their bill, we walked out together which gave me a chance to speak to them. The lady was a graduate of Robert College and her husband, a graduate of Tarsus American College. What a coincidence, I told them, stating that I was also a graduate of TAC as we climbed the stairs when we found out that the elevator to their house was not working. We walked through beautiful gardens and next to a large pool, and stopped in front of a beautiful house, right on the hills of Arnavutköy overlooking the Bosphorous. Hasan Hazerdaroğlu, TAC 89, gave the keys to his car to the chauffeur and told him to take me to Bizim Tepe. What a wonderful gesture, I said to myself, and thanked to Hasan and his wife, and gave them my card.. They promised to write back to me... A truly TAC tradition of keeping in touch and helping fellow graduates.

The conference room on the second floor of Bizim Tepe was full with participants, perhaps over 100, with copies of Sükrü Aya’s book lined on the table together with cpies of the brochure ‘’Armenian Fabrication (3)’’. The meeting was opened by the head of the Alumni Center Ayşe hanım, who first introduced Nuri Çolakoğlu as the guest speaker. Çolakoğlu stated that he was a 1962 graduate of Robert College, the year when he went to Ankara Siyasal Bilgiler Fakultesi with 4 other graduates, all wanting to be diplomats. Consul General, who was murdered by an Armenian fanatic in 1973 in California, Bahadır Demir (4) was one of the group members. Then, Çolakoğlu mentioned that Sükrü Aya was a 1954 graduate of Robert College, and Prof Talat Halman, Prof. Türkkaya Ataöv were both his classmates. After stating that he has been following the Armenian issue himself, welcomed everyone to the presentation (5).

Sükrü Aya thanked everyone for coming to the presentation and stated that the book was intended for those who speak without knowing the truth about the Armenian issue, especially those outside of Turkey. He made reference to the TV program where Hayrettin Karaca and Muazzez Hilmiye Çığ spoke about the Armenian issue and also to his Armenian friend who wrote the preface to his book. Referring to his earlier book, Aya stated that he had used 2,000 references from over 30,000 pages for his first book which after the publication reached to 60,000, hence the reason for his second book.

Aya also mentioned that the booklet prepared by a group in the US, Concerned People to Set the Record Straight (CPTSTRS), headed by Sevgin Oktay (Tac 54) and paid for Mustafa Ataç was also available. He also made reference to the http//www.armenians-1915.blogspot.com.

Two videos were shown. The first one was on Artvin Pekin, an Armenian Turk who had set himself on fire to protest ASALA murders and died in 1982. The second one was ‘’A Leaping Tour of Ottoman History’’, starting with the arrival of American ships to Ottoman controlled Mediterranean Sea, many Armenian revolts (5), the Re-location of Armenians and the British assault on Dardanelles in 1915, with many events in between. The presentation ended with a series of questions that need to be answered.

It was another excellent presentation and I salute Sukru Bey for all of his efforts. It is too bad that there were no members from the Talas or Tarsus alumni or any reporter (6).

Yüksel Oktay
17 January 2011
İstanbul

Notes: (1) An unfinished commentary on the December 15, 2010 book presentation is given below.

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Book Presentation 1- The Genocide of Truth Continues..But Facts Tell the Real Story – By Sükrü Server Aya, Published by Derin Yayınevi.

15 December 2010, Ankara

The new book is the second volume of ''The Genocide of Truth'' published in 2008 (1). A Turkish version of the book ''Soykırım Tacirleri'' was also published in 2009.

The book presentation, hosted by Sinan Ogan, the President of TURKSAM (2) started around 15:00 at the Meeting Room of TURKSAM with the attendance of 100 over participants. Among the audience were Prof. Dr. Yusuf Halacoğlu, Amb Ömer Lütfi Lütem, Prof. Jeremy Salt, Prof. Kemal Çelik, Amb. Melih Berk, Mustafa Ataç, Representatives from the Ukranian and Russian Consulates, Hüseyin Avni Yazcan (representing, he said Azmi Guran, long time resident of Switzerland and one of the şövalyes) and many other distinguished academicians, writers, and reporters.

The presentation was opened by Amb Ali Hikmet Alp as the moderator, with a short commentary that the alleged Armenian Genocide is one of the issues that keeps a lot of people busy. He stated that he took interest in the subject during his youth but could not follow on it properly due to his job requirements.. Sükrü Server Ata also spoke briefly in between signing his new book. He made reference o the new group in the US, Concerned People to Set The Record Straight (www.cptstrs.org), stating that may be 10 are active members (3). In one of the handouts, Aya writes the following, which sums up his reason for writing the books:

‘’In short Gentlemen, my objectives over the years has always been not to accuse or defend any faith, nationality or race. I hate racist and religious fanatics, who prefer to hide behind state ideologies or books. I respect those using their own intelligence, respecting ethical and human values, such as NOT TO LIE but SPEAK THE TRUTH and defend the innocents, against charlatans of GLOBAL ETHICS.’’

Sinan Ogan, spoke briefly and and after welcoming the participants, he introduced Prof. Talat Halman to present his opening speech.

Talat Halman first stated that this is a sensitive and a difficult issue since it has been turned into another Crusade, in fact the most successful one. Referring to the Armenians who were an integral part of the Ottoman society, Halman mentioned Vartan Paşa who wrote the first Turkish novel and that the Postal service was started by an Armenian, and many Armenians were elected to the Parliament and were appointed as Ministers,.

After Halman's presentation, the Moderator asked Sinan to say a few words. Two short video’s were presented, the first one the 1957 movie, ‘’Something of Value’’ where a comparison of horrible treatment of Kenyans by the British and the just treatment of the Armenians by the Ottomans. A power point presentation with a detailed information on the Armenian issue prepared by Şükrü Aya was also shown.

Unfortunately, Elif Derbeder, the GM of Deriner could not attend the presentation.

I had to leave early due to another commitment scheduled for 17:00 PM and missed the comment and question and answer session. I trust these will be summarized by others so that the full story can be told and concerned people disseminate the information exchanged at the presentation. The absence of representatives from media, except a few, and Prof. Dr. Türkkaya Ataöv, were noticeable, despite a personal invitation by this writer, perhaps due to health reasons. I hope the same book presentation will be repeated in Turkey where Prof. Ataöv could be the main speaker, since he has written about the Armenian issue for many years and lectured all over the world more then anyone in Turkey

Yüksel Oktay
17 December 2010
İstanbul

Notes:
(1) The Genocide of Truth by Sukru Server Aya, published on

(2). TURKSAM – Uluslar arası Ilişkiler ve Stratejik Analizler Merkezi – is a very active Think Tnak with several institutes under its umbrella, including the Energy Research Institute.

(3) A 32 page booklet prepared by the CPTSTRS was also available at the presentation with copies of earlier books.
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