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Saturday, January 30, 2010

3003) State of Diaspora

Posted on 7:27 PM by Unknown
  1. The Seeds of our Future
  2. Exploring Repatriation Through Photographs By Ara Khachatourian An Interview With Arsineh Khachikian
  3. ARMENIA VS. DIASPORA: The Myth of Diverging Interests Over the Genocide by Serouj Aprahamian
  4. The Armenian Diaspora in the Eastern USA and the Homeland by Sossi Essajanian
  5. Armenians In Turkey Today An Overview by Ari Esayan & Readers Comment by Sukru Server Aya
  6. New Armenian Ministry Seeks To Engage Diaspora Led By Hranush Hakobyan Since Its Inception In October Of 2008. Its Mission: To Preserve, Utilize And Repatriate The Diaspora. by Tamar Yardemian
  7. Answer You Will Likely Get From An Armenian Living In Istanbul If You: Turkey - Visit: by Maro Siranosian
  8. Armenian Life On Hellenic Soil By Thora Giallouri
  9. “New”/“Old” Diaspora: Salvation In Power Of Unity By Mikael Kourinian

Armenian Youth Federation
Glendale, California 91206



The Seeds of our Future

The struggle to maintain one’s identity and culture outside of his or her homeland is not a new one for Armenians. For centuries, we have survived exile, domination under foreign powers and life on foreign soil.

Despite even the decimation wrought by the Genocide, Armenians everywhere transformed their existence from one of refugees, orphans, and scarred survivors to flourishing, tight-knit and successful communities. Through the invaluable strength of organization, we were able to build new schools, churches, and cultural institutions. Thanks to the perseverance and will of our parents and grandparents, the youth of today were provided the proper avenues for maintaining their identity and preserving their heritage in the diaspora. But this struggle to stay Armenian outside of our indigenous homeland has always been daunting. In the Western societies of Europe and North America, especially, the fight against assimilation and apathy is a daily challenge. The cultural homogenization now propelled around the world by the process of globalization has only further expanded this obstacle.

Adding to this complexity of life in the diaspora is the changing landscape of communities themselves. An influx of more recently arrived immigrants from Armenia has challenged the traditional dynamics of many diasporan communities. What’s more, regaining an independent Armenian Republic--one with all the powers available to a state and an impetus to engage the seeds of its nation spread across the globe--has opened a new page for what lies in the future.

These realities demand the need to take a fresh new look at the state of the Armenian Diaspora and grapple with the modern challenges that face it. In this special Tri-Regional AYF collaborative issue, we set out to do just that.

One thing continues to remain crystal clear: more than ever, it is the responsibility of the youth today to recognize the accomplishments of previous generations so as to build upon them with vigor and determination, and ensure an even brighter future for generations to come.

The countless Armenian diasporan communities and the Republic itself are like the seeds of a sunflower. While some are larger than others, they exist in unison to form our blossoming Armenian Nation. It’s up to our generation to keep that flower beautiful.


Exploring Repatriation Through Photographs By Ara Khachatourian
An Interview With Arsineh Khachikian

Arsineh Khachikian repatriated to Armenia in 2006. She tells a story of a diaspora upbringing and a life-long calling from the homeland through personal photographs she has compiled in a book called “My Nation: The Trails and Trials of an Armenian Repatriate.” Asbarez newspaper English Editor Ara Khachatourian interviewed Khachikian about her book.

They explore issues of identity and repatriation in a frank conversation that is presented below.

ASBAREZ: Your book is called “My Nation: The Trails and Trials of an Armenian Repatriate.” What is a repatriate?

ARSINEH KHACHIKIAN: A lot of people have a very specific definition of it. For me it’s a little more broad.

It’s somebody that returns to what they call their homeland, with the intention of living, and staying and contributing to society. I moved to Armenia twice, the first time in 2001 and then in 2006 with the intention of staying. And I am becoming part of every day life, doing business and living there as if I were a citizen—as if I were a repatriate.

ASBAREZ: The book chronicles your life as an individual who goes through that process. Tell me about how you came up with this concept—the book. A.K.: I was looking for a way to tell this story through my photos: about the Armenian experience. The only way I knew how was to tell my story. So, because I was involved in so many aspects of the Armenian community in the US, as well as in Armenia, I felt it was a good way to show that perspective—the active Armenian’s type of perspective—on all of these different aspects of our community, from cultural to political to community centers and just every day life. And, since I had collected so many photos throughout the years, that was the way I wanted to convey the message. The fact that I grew up in the US and moved to Armenia is something that I think a lot of people will be doing in the future. I wanted to make my mark and tell my story to inspire other people to do it as well, and give them a little more incentive to do it.

The most important aspect of it is that I believe Armenians have a very unique place in the world, where we have a very large Diaspora relative to the population in Armenia. It’s a unique story; I thought one person out of millions of Armenians around the world can tell a story that relates to everybody else.

That’s the reaction I’ve gotten from other people--that they can relate to it, that they know what it’s like to live in a foreign country and feel so attached to their identity, and search for their identity as well.

ASBAREZ: That has largely happened in the United States because we have the infrastructure for it—the organizations, the churches, the schools. How about in the communities that don’t? How will they relate to the book, in your opinion?

A.K.: The one place that I can think of--that I have been to--that may not have as large a community as we do is Dubai. I went to Dubai and a lot of people I met there have this feeling that they missed out on it, but they still have this connection to other Armenians.

I have met a lot of Armenians who end up in random places where there are very few Armenians, but they still feel this need to connect. Even in America, we might not have huge communities in every single city, but in places like Iowa, Wisconsin or Alabama, I have met people who want to connect to something so they can continue their Armenianness.

I think that no matter what Armenians generally grow up with this sense of community and family, that one way or another they are going to relate to the book.

There are parts of it that I believe express the individual— personal—side of me, of my own childhood, of my going to an American school where there are no Armenians, that many people also face as well. So, I think there’s a little bit of everything for Armenians to relate to.

ASBAREZ: In your opinion, having lived in Armenia, why is there a misunderstanding?

A.K.: I think we’ve had little exposure to each other. As much as diasporans have gone to Armenia, and Armenians have visited the diaspora communities, I think there are still a lot of people who haven’t been thoroughly exposed to each community. A lot of people that I’ve met in Armenia have false impressions that they’ve heard through word of mouth, so they don’t really understand it.

I think we need to engage in a lot more conversation. We need to interact with each other in order to understand each other.

While I’ve been touring, I’ve talked to a lot of people whose experience in Armenia lasted only for two weeks and they have experiences that either turn them on or turn them off. I’ve been living there for three years, and I’ve gone many times before that. I’ve been going there since 1994 and every single experience is quite different—good and bad. So, it’s hard to judge what defines Armenia in a couple of weeks or a couple of months--likewise for people of Armenia to judge what the diaspora is like based on one person they’ve met.

We have just as many different types of Armenians in the diaspora as they do in Armenia. We have to appreciate that. I think it’s very important for us to start sharing these ideas and thoughts with each other, so there is less miscommunication.

ASBAREZ: Please, talk about the process of putting the book together.

A.K.: It was actually a year long process. It started with conversations with friends of mine who said “you have a lot of photos and they tell an interesting story.

You should do something with it. You should publish a book.”

For me, the beginning of it was figuring out what story to tell. As I mentioned before, I felt like the only way to talk about the Armenian experience is through my own eyes—through my own photos. So, I started writing down my memories from childhood, starting from my first memory when I was three years old, and writing about major events through each stage of my life that affected me--things that stood out to me that may have changed my life. Like going to many protests when I was eight years old during the Karabakh movement and being involved in the earthquake relief efforts and watching my mother go to Armenia after the earthquake.

So, I went through all of these memories and I researched to see what events took place in the last 20 years to figure out how I reacted to them and what photos I had that show not just my involvement, or perspective on it, but everybody else’s around me.

I went through memory after memory after memory, finding the photos that spoke to each story; those thoughts and those events—those images in my head.

Editing was, maybe, the hardest part--going through every single photo that I had and taking the ones that speak the truth. I may have left some of my favorite photos out of the book, but these [the photos in the book] are the ones that best tell the story.

ASBAREZ: What other projects do you have coming up?

A.K.: Tons! I don’t know where to begin. For now I’m just freelance designing in Armenia and I’ll always be doing the small projects in between. But, I have a few ideas related to photography, like opening a photo studio in Armenia. I’m thinking of organizing some sort of media conference in Armenia. For me the most important projects are the ones that bring talent from abroad to Armenia to engage in these types of conferences that allow people to exchange ideas. I think one of the industries that needs that extra push is media, from television to journalism to photography to design and the arts I think that might be my next big project.

ASBAREZ: Why do you think people should repatriate?

A.K.: I believe that people who have thought about and could see it happening should take it seriously. It’s a very personal choice. It’s a very difficult choice.

For me it was an easy one because I was in the right situation and I was at a point in my career that it made sense. Although I had stayed in the US to save up in order to go back. So it wasn’t that easy, but for me it was my plan. I had set out to stay in the US to save up, work, get the experience and go.

Why is it important? Because, I think Armenians tend to struggle a lot around the world in terms of figuring out what being Armenian means to them and, I think for their sake, if I can be one example to show that living in Armenia brings that identity issue to an end. Not a complete end, but I do have that sense that I’m now complete. I know where I belong and I don’t have to search anymore to figure out “do I fit in here or do I fit in there?” If people in Armenia don’t like me, that’s fine. I am where I want to be. And, I think it’s important for people to realize that that’s possible.

ASBAREZ: Why does one’s search for, as you say, one’s Armenian identity come to an end?

A.K.: I struggled a lot with it, because I was torn between my American and my Armenian identities. I was going to an American school in Virginia where people didn’t know where Armenia was on the map.

They thought that I was from Romania! Then, I was going to Armenian school on the weekends, where Armenians were coming together and it was like we shut out the American world. I felt schizophrenic because I was entering two different worlds on a weekly basis trying to figure out who I’m supposed to be that day! I asked myself, “Why do I have to deprive myself of this Armenian aspect all the time?” I constantly felt like I had to sacrifice Armenian things in order to do my job. I felt like combining the two; if I work as a designer in Armenia, then I think I’m combining everything that I want to do. In the end it worked out for me. I really enjoy it. I have my frustrations, but, in the end I wake up every day feeling happy about my life and go to bed every day feeling the same exact way.

Arsineh Khachikian’s “My Nation: The Trails and Trials of an Armenian Repatriate” can be purchased at Sardarabad bookstore in Glendale, California or online at sardarabad.com.


ARMENIA VS. DIASPORA:
The Myth of Diverging Interests Over the Genocide
by Serouj Aprahamian

When asked in 2007 at the National Press Club in Washington, DC why he thought the “historic issue” of the Armenian Genocide continues to come up again and again all over the world, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan responded by saying:

“This is a problem of the Armenian Diaspora. The Armenian Diaspora is looking for a way to create some sort of benefits for itself and this is what they have found. If it works, then they look to achieve some gains from it. If not, the world will have lost a lot of time.”

A few months later, on the eve of the US House Foreign Affairs Committee’s adoption of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106), the State Department’s Assistant Secretary for Eurasian Affairs, Dan Fried, called for the defeat of the measure so that “Turkish-Armenian relations will move ahead strongly and in a positive way.” He added, “There are many people in Armenia who also, obviously would like to have better relations with Turkey.

These are serious people and I think good partners for Turkey if we can get past this resolution.” So, the argument goes, the issue of the Armenian Genocide is simply a concern of the Armenian diaspora and those living in Armenia are more interested in forgetting the past and gaining Turkey’s friendship. This line has been parroted ad nauseam, at least, since Armenia’s 1991 independence.

Ankara and Washington, among others, have gone to great lengths to paint the diaspora as “extremists” obsessed with the Genocide, as opposed to Armenia which is much more “reasonable” and willing to “move forward from its past.”

This article will attempt to show that, especially when it comes to the issue of the Genocide, this notion of diverging interests be-ting the past and gaining Turkey’s friendship. This line has been parroted ad nauseam, at least, since Armenia’s 1991 independence. Ankara and Washington, among others, have gone to great lengths to paint the diaspora as “extremists” obsessed with the Genocide, as opposed to Armenia which is much more “reasonable” and willing to “move forward from its past.”

This article will attempt to show that, especially when it comes to the issue of the Genocide, this notion of diverging interests between Armenia and the diaspora is utterly and ridiculously false.

The fact that it is repeated so often has more to do with a political desire to divide the Armenian nation than with any factual grounding in reality. Indeed, if anything, Armenians living in Armenia are just as equally, if not more, adamant about achieving justice for the Genocide than those in the diaspora.

History as a Guide

Those who are serious about evaluating the argument that the Genocide is an issue exclusive to the diaspora would do well to take a brief look at history.

Armenian Public Opinion on Genocide Recognition
and Relations with Turkey, 2003-2008



First of all, more than half of the current citizens of Armenia trace their family roots to Western Armenia and have relatives who were direct victims of the World War I Genocide. These families fled to Armenia either as survivors during the massacres or later as survivors and children of survivors repatriating to Armenia during the waves of nerkaght immigration from the diaspora. Those who ended up in Soviet Armenia held on to a very strong identification with the culture, life and history of their ancestral towns and villages in Western Armenia.

Similarly, it is worth remembering where the modern international campaign to attain recognition and justice for the Genocide was initially sparked. It was in Yerevan in 1965—on the 50th anniversary of the Genocide—where the people took to the streets, in an unprecedented display of defiance to the Soviet state, and held mass demonstrations calling for “Our Lands! Our Lands” and “Justice! Justice!” This was a major wakeup call to the entire Armenian nation and, in Armenia itself, forced the Soviet authorities to allow the building of the Tsitsernakapert Genocide Memorial in 1968, as a way to appease the growing wave of nationalist sentiment.

However, this sentiment did not die but only resurfaced in the form of underground organizations and groups such as the National Unification Party (NUP), which called for the return of Western Armenian lands and reparations for the Genocide, among other demands. By 1974, there were some 80 Armenian activists imprisoned for such nationalist activity in Soviet Armenia. As another indication of the attachment Armenian citizens always held for the Genocide, one of the most striking factors of the movement for Artsakh’s independence in the late 1980s was the prevalence of similarities and connections made to the Genocide of 1915. From the slogans used in mass demonstrations to the accounts of those involved in the movement, it has been shown that the tragedy which befell Armenians at the hands of Turkey was fresh on the minds of those suffering and resisting Azeri occupation and oppression.

Public Opinion

Aside from the historical record documenting the centrality the Genocide has always played in the politics and life of Armenians in Armenia, let us come more up to date and see what Armenian citizens have been expressing in public opinion surveys over the course of the last decade.

In a 2003 survey of both Armenians in the diaspora and Armenia conducted by the Aslan Group and Arlex International, nearly 80% of Armenians in Armenia said they believe that “international recognition of the Genocide should be one of the top priorities for Armenia’s leaders.”

This was in comparison to their counterparts in the diaspora, only 70% of whom shared the same view. Thus, we see in this case that the Armenians living in Armenia actually had a more steadfast approach to the Genocide than those in the diaspora.

A similar finding occurred on the 90th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide, when a poll was carried out by the Armenian Center for National International Studies which found 93.5% of respondents in Armenia saying that their government should claim reparations from Turkey and another 80% insisting that it was the role of the government in Armenia to actively push for Turkey’s recognition. This clearly illustrates an Armenian citizenry that wants to see its leaders not only more engaged on the international recognition front, but also to move further into securing proper restitution for the crime that was committed against it.

One year later, a 2006 Sociometer Poll found that 90% of young Armenian citizens were against normalization of relations with Turkey if this required giving up Armenians’ territorial claims or came without Turkey’s recognition of the Genocide. Again, rather than seeing a passive or indifferent population in Armenia, we see one that is overwhelmingly in agreement—one would probably be lucky to get 90% agreement on this in the diaspora—about the need to resist Turkey’s efforts at denying and avoiding the consequences of the Genocide it committed.

More recently, an October 2008 survey was carried out by the Gallup Organization in which respondents were asked about the overtures from Armenia and Turkey surrounding the so-called ‘soccer diplomacy’ process. The results were that 47.3% of respondents felt that “Armenia should be very careful in its relations with Turkey” and another 25% expressed opposition to establishing population in Armenia, we see one that is overwhelmingly in agreement—one would probably be lucky to get 90% agreement on this in the diaspora—about the need to resist Turkey’s efforts at denying and avoiding the consequences of the Genocide it committed.

More recently, an October 2008 survey was carried out by the Gallup Organization in which respondents were asked about the overtures from Armenia and Turkey surrounding the so-called ‘soccer diplomacy’ process. The results were that 47.3% of respondents felt that “Armenia should be very careful in its relations with Turkey” and another 25% expressed opposition to establishing any sort of relations until Turkey recognized the Genocide. Do the math and you can see that the vast majority of Armenians in Armenia, again, are not eager to forget the past and place heavy emphasis on achieving justice for the Armenian Genocide.

These same basic results are seen over and over again in countless other public opinion polls and surveys (see Chart A). Whenever Armenian citizens are asked such questions they actually tend to take a more assertive position on the Genocide than many diasporans would.

Aside from whether or not this consensus in Armenia gets fully translated into government policy, the simple fact of the matter is that Armenians living in Armenia care deeply about the Genocide and share a similar, if not higher, level of support for recognition and reparation efforts as those in the diaspora.

Recent Developments

For those who still might not be convinced by the historical record and public opinion data, it is worth pointing out a few other key observations from recent developments that further reveal the nature of Armenia’s stance on the Genocide.

In October 2007, when the US House Foreign Affairs Committee passed H.Res.106, government and opposition politicians alike in Armenia openly welcomed the passage and gave a standing ovation in the parliament.

Despite pressure from Turkey and the US, these parliamentarians went on record calling for a full official recognition vote by the entire US House. Similar support and elation was witnessed all throughout the press and society in Armenia.

More recently, when the head of the Armenian Football Federation, oligarch Ruben “Nemets Rubo” Hairapetyan, decided to remove the image of Ararat from the logo of Armenia’s team in the runup to their soccer match against Turkey, citizens throughout the country raised such an uproar that the Federation was forced to reinstate the logo. Hairapetyan himself publicly admitted, “We could not imagine that the change of the Football Federation’s logo could elicit such a wide response and become a politicized matter.”

Finally, on December 9, an open letter signed by over 300 of Armenia’s leading academics, artists and intellectuals was sent to Turkey’s President, Abdullah Gul, calling on him to recognize the Genocide as a necessary condition for Armenian-Turkish relations.

The letter insists that the crime of Genocide “has no statutory limitation” and states, “We should all accept the fact that Ottoman Turkey is responsible for the genocidal crime against Armenians, while today’s Turkish state has inherited this responsibility. The current Turkish diplomacy and propaganda cannot cover up this macabre page of our history.”

All three of these examples are recent expressions of the Armenian people’s determination to ensure proper recognition and restitution from Turkey on this matter.

These are expressions originating from within the mainstream of Armenian society and reflect the reality that the centrality of the Genocide is anything but a strictly diaspora concern.

Facts in Perspective

This cursory review of some of the vast body of evidence debunking the myth that Armenia and the diaspora have conflicting interests on the issue of the Armenian Genocide should be enough to put to rest this silly notion once and for all.

Nevertheless, we can expect that the agents of Ankara and Washington will find it in their interests to continue ignoring the facts and parroting this myth in the hopes of dividing the Armenian nation in its struggle for justice.

Unfortunately, it is also likely that officials in Yerevan may continue to succumb to certain geopolitical and economic pressures to stay pliant over this issue. Hence, we can expect that the overwhelming consensus of the Armenian citizenry for proper recognition and reparations for the crime of the Genocide will not be adequately reflected in Armenian government policy anytime soon.

It is in this light that the role of the diaspora in the overall struggle for recognition and justice becomes all the more critical. Those of us who live in relative freedom, economic prosperity, and comfort in the West have a special obligation to be the torchbearers of the Armenian Cause throughout the world.

We must represent the interests of our people in national and international circles with an understanding that we have certain privileges in the realm of political and economic activity that our brothers and sisters in Armenia do not.

When it comes to the importance of achieving justice for the Genocide, there is absolutely no difference between an Armenian in Armenia and one in the diaspora. The only difference lies in the resources, advantages, opportunities and institutions available for each actor to make this goal a reality.

Let us never forget that, as Armenians, we share the same interests in the Armenian Cause no matter where we may be in the world. With this reality in mind, we can more effectively move forward, united and working together to achieve all our just aspirations
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Sources used in this article:

1 Tayyip Erdogan, “US-Turkey Strategic Partnership,” National Press Club, Washington, DC, November 5, 2007

2 Daniel Fried, Interview, Anatolia News, Washington, DC, October 9, 2007, http://turkey. usembassy.gov/statement_100907.html

3 For an analysis of how Levon Ter Petrossian, turned his back on the original principles of the movement see Stephan H. Astourian, “From Ter-Petrosian to Kocharian, Leadership Change in Armenia,” Berkeley Program in Soviet and Post-Soviet Studies, Working Paper Series (2000). For a similarly defeatist display by the man currently serving as Armenia’s Secretary of National Security, see Artur Baghdasaryan, “Armenia is Trapped in its Past,” Wall Street Journal, February 21, 2007. In the arena of Armenian scholarship, see Asbed Kotchikian, “From Vertical to Diagonal Interactions: The Multidimensional Aspects of Armenia(n)-(Turk)ey Relations,” The Armenian Weekly, April 21, 2007, wherein it is argued that the Genocide is much more important to diasporan identity whereas it “seems not to be focal in the minds of the citizens of the [Armenian] state.”

4 Ronald Grigor Suny, “Soviet Armenia,” in Richard G. Hovannisian, ed. The Armenian People from Ancient to Modern Times, Volume II (New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1997) and Nora Dudwick, “Armenia: The Nation Awakens,” in Ian Bremmer and Ray Taras, eds., Nation and Politics in the Soviet Successor States (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1993).

5 Robert Evans, “Armenian Protestors Also Recall ‘Genocide’,” Washington Times, April 25, 1989; Donald E. Miller and Lorna Touryan Miller, Armenia: Portraits of Survival and Hope (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003); and Haroutioun Maroutian, “Hay Poezian Vorpes Inknoutyan Patkeragoutyoun (est Kharabaghyan sharzhman tseghaspanoutyane nvirvats tsoutsapastarneri),” cited in Astourian, “From Ter-Petrosian to Kocharian,” p. 22.

6 Harut Sassounian, “First Global Survey of Armenian Opinion Presented at Futuristic Conclave in Athens,” The California Courier, May 22, 2003, http://adl.hayway.org/default_zone/gb/html/page2870.html

7 “The Armenian Genocide: 90 Years and Waiting,” The Armenian Center for National and International Studies, April 2005, www. acnis.am/survey/

8 “Young Armenians Against Normalization of Relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan,” Asbarez, April 4, 2006, http://www.asbarez. com/aol/2006/060404.htm#n4

9 “Political Segmentation in Armenia,” Baltic Surveys/The Gallup Organization and IPM Georgia, November 2008.

10 Although the Republic of Armenia’s declaration of independence itself clearly states, “Armenia stands in support of the task of achieving international recognition of the 1915 Genocide in Ottoman Turkey and Western Armenia,” successive Armenian governments have often taken a much more passive, if not appeasing stance.

11 See Avet Demourian, “Armenian Eyes, Ears on US Genocide Vote,” The Associated Press, October 19, 2007 and “Armenia Hails U.S. Vote Recognizing Genocide,” RFE/RL, October 11, 2007

12 Suren Musayelyan, “Back to Ararat?: Football Chief Reverses Course in Logo Controversy,” ArmeniaNow, October 10, 200814
“Open Letter to the President of the Turkish Republic, Abdullah Gul,” December 9, 2008


The Armenian Diaspora in the Eastern USA and the Homeland
by Sossi Essajanian

“There once was, and there once was not…” This sentence has served as the beginning to many Armenian fairytales as they weave stories about the handsome prince, the peasant girl, or the poor beggar who sings beautiful songs to lure the animals to feast with him. With such a standard commencement, the listener is left wondering if the entire world just described really existed or not. Unlike “Once upon a time…” which insinuates a moment once did exist, the Armenian version leaves one in doubt if such a place existed. These questions are familiar to Armenians in the Eastern USA in cities such as Boston, New York, Philadelphia and Providence as we think about where we live and how much we consider “home” as tied with our identity.

Three generations removed from their ancestral lands and living in the Eastern USA, Armenian youth still learn about the ancient city of Ani and the Holy Cross Church on Akhtamar Island as great cites of Armenian history as well as places of trauma and death. They also use names of cities and villages employed during Ottoman and pre-Ottoman times to refer to these locations even though today many are not used in Turkey as the actual city names. Frequently when asked “Where is your family from?” many use these old city names to establish relations creating the sense that they still exist. But establishing a historic connection to these places is not merely an end it itself.

Anthropologist Susan Pattie discusses the various conceptualizations of diaspora that might be applied to the Armenian case. She refers to William Safran’s understanding of diaspora as an eventual return to the homeland, as well as Robin Cohen’s counter argument against the concept of homeland that there may be positives for living in the diaspora. However, in the Armenian case Pattie concludes that “this tangled mass of approaches to the question of ethnic identity and diaspora/homeland relations is highly appropriate.” Adding to this complexity for the recent generation is the opportunity to visit the Republic of Armenia. Through the help of various internship and volunteer programs diasporans from the East Coast of the United States have joined others around the world in visiting Armenia and returning to the homeland. But how many consider moving there for good?

Thus for many Armenian-Americans living in the Eastern USA the idea of home and homeland seem to differ, making the diaspora here so grounded. Pattie notes that “with each generation in place, diaspora becomes more comfortable and a home itself.” In conversations with diasporan Armenians about culture Pattie writes that for them homeland is implicit; it is a group of behaviors and traditions that when changed, “the culture is lost or in danger of being lost.”

In the Eastern USA Armenian youth grow up with the option to be Armenian or not. It seems as though the Armenian culture of community directly collides with the American mentality of individualism. Thus, many cities’ Armenian “areas” do not exist where one can find all Armenian churches, stores, and businesses within walking distance of each other; one has to commute via car, bus or train in order to reach an Armenian Center, club, or church. Thus Armenian identity seems to be one of choice; it is not imposed and one has to seek out those places to find things that will make them Armenian.

In her recent essay “Learning to be Armenian:

Understanding the Process of Ethnic Identity Development for Armenian Adolescents” Ani Yezedjian echoes these sentiments when she says that “although the existence of cultural markers can provide tools for individuals and institutions to manipulate, their existence alone will not ensure the persistence of the ethnic group.” So let us no longer say “there once was and was not”; let us make our home and homeland one and flower Armenia with our talents, passion, and humanity.

Sossi Essajanian is an AYF Alumnus from the New York “Hayortik” Chapter.


Armenians In Turkey Today
An Overview by Ari Esayan

Currently, estimates place the number of Armenians in Turkey between 55,000 and 75,000. While most of them belong to the Armenian Apostolic church, a small portion of these Armenians are Catholic or Protestant. The Armenian community is concentrated in several districts in Istanbul including Bakirkoy, Sisli, Kurtulus, and Samatya.

During Ottoman times, Armenians who obeyed the law got by as long as they accepted a legal and social code that was different than that which was applied to their Muslim countrymen. However, harsher methods—such as outright killings and deportations—were employed as the empire neared its end, especially during the Hamidian and later transition years (the Young Turk era) towards the new republic.

Things changed following the creation of the Turkish Republic.

One can say that the government followed a certain “path,” rather than the institutionalized segregation reminiscent of Ottoman times.

In other words, the Ottoman-style discrimination became much more discreet, yet was nevertheless still prevalent. This newer “path” can be described as an accumulation of methods, such as: indirect intimidation of the minorities; arbitrary laws that create and support legal uncertainty; and policies that aim to create weariness among the Armenian population to pass on its religion, culture and language to the next generation.

In 1942, along with the other non-Muslim minorities, Armenians in Turkey were forced to pay a wealth tax which was arbitrarily imposed to bring about the impoverishment of non-Muslim segments of Turkish society. As an open example of the impetus behind such discriminatory measures, the then Prime Minister Sukru Saracoglu delivered a speech on August 5, 1942, where he described the Turkish administration’s program and stated that his nation is, “Turkish, pro-Turkish, and will always remain pro-Turkish. As much as being a blood matter, Turkishness is also a matter of conscience and culture. We want the authority of neither monarchy nor capitalism, nor the authority of classes. We only want the dominion of the Turkish nation.”

Later, in the mid-1950s, Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul became the victims of Turkish mobs, inflamed by the issue of Cyprus, which rioted through their communities destroying personal property churches and cemeteries with the indirect help of the military.

Today, although Armenians do have a legal minority status in Turkey, their religious leadership organs are not recognized in the same way. For instance, the Armenian Patriarchate continues to this day to seek legal recognition of its status as patriarchates rather than foundations. This particular problem prevents it from having the right to own and transfer property and train religious clergy.

Outright killings of Armenian civilians do not occur anymore, as far as we know; however, the intensive anti-Christian (or, more broadly, anti-foreign) propaganda by the media outlets—which are heavily influenced by the government— do result in attacks by nationalists on Armenian individuals, churches and cemeteries. This is especially true since the Armenian community represents the largest non-Muslim element in Turkey.

Even though it may not be appropriate to blame the entire Turkish government for these attacks or for the recent murder of journalist Hrant Dink, powerful elements within the government are certainly responsible for them.

Furthermore, the Armenian community in Turkey faces the burden of often being blamed for the country’s image problems abroad. International Genocide recognition efforts create resentment and public anger towards the Armenian community. This active anger is fueled by active propaganda which results in the creation of a society where the average Armenian living in Turkey feels like a stranger—despite the fact that he or she is born in that country, and is supposed to be a part of the fabric of Turkish society.

It is worth mentioning here that Hrant Dink’s murder, along with other developments, created a slight ripple of change in public opinion in Turkey during recent years. More and more intellectuals have publicly recognized the Armenian Genocide. Furthermore, a group of intellectuals started an apology campaign. However, it is too early to say that the Turkish government or the people are ready to do what is right. Apology campaigns and seminars that shed light on the Armenian Question are not taken seriously by the authorities, and are resented by the vast majority of the general public.

The problem seems to be that the Turkish government is still extremely worried about the Armenian Question; even an insignificant minority population that has no right of association is recognized as a “potential threat to the national security” by this government.

This fright leads the government to create an environment in which the average Armenian will feel so uncomfortable that eventually they will end up emigrating or losing their identity and assimilate.

The Genocide and the events that led up to it caused the disappearance of a significant portion of Armenian existence. In addition, after the World War I, the political, cultural and financial harassment led to the present situation of Armenians in Turkey. The Armenian community will not have much left to recover if Armenians abroad do not act to do something to protect their compatriots from this new way of oppression.





New Armenian Ministry Seeks To Engage Diaspora Led By Hranush Hakobyan Since Its Inception In October Of 2008. Its Mission: To Preserve, Utilize And Repatriate The Diaspora.
by Tamar Yardemian

Diasporan people have become increasingly common in the 21st century, as people immigrate into more economically advanced countries in search for better living opportunities. Yet it is quite uncommon for small republics to dedicate a ministry of their government to the diasporan entities of that country.

Does Armenia’s bold move of dedicating an entire Ministry of Diaspora Affairs in October 2008 illustrate the importance of diasporans to the vitality of the Republic of Armenia?

Either way, this is an unprecedented opportunity to fully engage diasporans in reconnecting with their homeland both physically and emotionally. The Ministry is an opportunity for an organized method of connecting the Armenian government with its people abroad.

The general goals of the Ministry have been emphasized through interviews with Hranush Hakobyan, the newly appointed head of Diaspora Affairs:

(1) Preservation of Armenian identity – culture, faith and language; (2) Utilizing diasporans to empower the homeland in progression; (3) Repatriation – return to the homeland and to one’s roots. These goals are quite general and can be pursued through many avenues. Thus far, Hakobyan has made several visits abroad and has been speaking publicly about newly initiated programs.

“Ari Tun” (“Come Home”) is the name of the campaign being launched to encourage diasporan tourism in Armenia, and thereby instigate spiritual and financial efforts towards the development of Armenia.

Another project has been titled “Days of Honor,” where famous and influential diasporan Armenians will be celebrated in Armenia through specified days named in their honor. Among these figures are actor and musician Charles Aznavour, entrepreneur Kirk Kerkorian and Alek Manookian. More substantial examples of launched programs are the building of ties with Armenians living in Latin America--a community in danger of alienation. The Ministry is facilitating educational programs to exchange teachers and enter diasporan youth into Armenian universities.

Educational programs and technological opportunities have taken the forefront of all news related to the Ministry.

Are these programs nearly enough to fulfill the goals of preservation, utilization and repatriation of the diaspora? There are continuing conversations about long-term implementations of these objectives.

But the true question lies in the selection of the goals themselves. What if all efforts were geared toward the broader objective of securing the existence and future of Armenians at home and abroad? As we enter the era of globalization in the 21st century, it may be more realistic to work towards the unity and continuity of the Armenian people across the world.

Unification not only by language and culture, but also through citizenship, paying taxes, full cooperation in lobbying efforts and undenied opportunities for employment of diasporan Armenians in the private, public and nonprofit sectors of Armenia and Kharabagh.

As the Ministry of Diaspora Affairs works to engage us who live outside our homeland, we should take the initiative to respond with opinions about our destiny as diasporans.


Turkey - Visit
by Maro Siranosian

36 churches, 15 schools, 18 choirs, 3 newspapers, and a handful of dance groups. This is the Answer You Will Likely Get From An Armenian Living In Istanbul If You Ask The Question: “How many Armenian [insert institution name here]’s are there in Istanbul?” If you asked a similar question to an Armenian in Beirut or Los Angeles, chances are, you would not be satisfied with the answer you received.

The Armenians of Turkey, mostly located in the city of Istanbul, do not like to be referred to as a diaspora. After all, they are living on their ancestral lands and, along with the Armenians of Iran, represent one of the oldest Armenian communities outside of Armenia proper.

Prior to 1915, there were over 4,000 Armenian churches in Turkey and an estimated 2 million Armenians. Today, the churches which remain are centered in Istanbul, with some others partly scattered across eastern Turkey, including a church in the village of Vakif (the only remaining ethnic Armenian village in Turkey) located in the province of Hatay near the Syrian border.

The Armenians in Turkey can be found in almost any commercial sector and are well represented in most trades, and even dominate in some, like the silver trade in which Armenians have been working for over 600 years.

They are well integrated into Turkish society and generally enjoy the same rights as the average Turkish citizen. Of course, there are some exceptions to this, as the community does not have the right to teach Armenian history at their parochial schools.

This past November, I had the opportunity to travel to Turkey with a photographer to work on a photo project about Armenians living outside the Republic of Armenia. Almost every Armenian with whom we spoke in Istanbul expressed very positive feelings towards their Turkish compatriots.

They seemed not to hold grudges and recognized certain events of the past as “history”; which, though they believed should never be forgotten, they also felt should have no place in dictating current relations.

Having been active in the Armenian community of Los Angeles, I had strong notions about what it meant to be Armenian.

Those ideas changed when I moved to Yerevan two years ago, and traveling to Turkey to meet with the Armenian community has added yet another layer to this understanding.

The Armenians of Turkey approach the issue of the Genocide, the most salient issue for most diasporans, with much caution and prefer to live without drawing unnecessary attention to their community. Although not a single one of the Armenians we spoke with mentioned outright repression, they are well aware of the subjects which they are to avoid if they wish to live in relative peace and keep their churches and schools open. The murder of Hrant Dink, editor of the Armenian newspaper Agos based in Istanbul, is all too fresh in their memories. Dink, who was convicted by the state under Article 301 and targeted by Turkish nationalists in January 2007, played a big role in chipping away at the taboo surrounding the topic of the Genocide and awoke people’s interest in the subject.

Living in Turkey as an Armenian seems to require somewhat of an intricate balancing act. Oftentimes, efforts to simultaneously be “good citizens” of Turkey while still preserving their Armenian identities counter each other and something has to give. In certain cases what gives in the end is the former, but, according to the Armenian school principals we spoke to, accepting that Armenian history will not be taught is a relatively small price to pay to ensure that Armenian children have a school to attend where they can learn the Armenian language with their peers. Though I cannot speak for them, it seems that the Armenians of Turkey find themselves in a paradoxical situation, struggling to preserve their Armenian identities, while at the same time being forced to sacrifice parts of that identity to be able to remain Armenian.

Unlike the Armenian communities of Los Angeles and Beirut, the Armenians of Turkey need to strive for balance while still dealing with the same issues of assimilation faced by diasporan Armenian communities. Although some may criticize the Armenians of Turkey for what they have seemingly given up, it is important to realize that they are driven by a deep understanding of what it is they stand to lose and it is only to preserve this that they sacrifice so much.


Armenian Life On Hellenic Soil
By Thora Giallouri

The Armenian presence on Hellenic ground dates back to antiquity. In fact, many villages and areas in Greece are named after the Armenian communities that lived there in ancient times. Until 1890 though, Armenians in Greece counted less than 1000 people.

They only took the character and feeling of a Diaspora after 1921-1922 due to the Asia Minor Holocaust, when close to 80,000 Armenian refugees fled the area along with 1,000,000 Greeks.

Before their mass arrival in Greece, some Armenians, particularly those who had fled the 1894-1896 massacres, managed to establish the first Armenian Church in 1905. Some years later, in 1921 Dikran Chayan became the first ambassador to represent the Republic of Armenia in Greece. During that same time, from 1921 to 1923, the two countries established proper diplomatic relations, with Armenia opening up two consulates in Athens and Thessaloniki.

A Refugee Community
By 1923, Athens had 26,000 Armenian refugees, with thousands more spread throughout the rest of Greece. But the number of Armenians on Greek territory began to shrink soon after, as more and more sought asylum in other parts of the world. By the end of the 1920s, the Armenian population in all of Greece totaled only about 42,000.

In the years that followed, the number of Armenians in Greece continued to decrease as they immigrated to Argentina, Canada, and the U.S. A large portion of the community also left in 1947 during the repatriation drive to Soviet Armenia. Ever since then, their number has remained more or less steady; around 18,000-20,000 people, most of them residing in Athens, Thessaloniki and northern Greece.

Community Life

The Armenian Blue Cross, with financial help from their U.S. chapter, as well as members of the community, was able to establish Armenian kindergartens, elementary schools and high-schools throughout Greece. Until the Armenian community was able to stand on its feet, those charitable organizations undertook the task of feeding, lodging, clothing and offering health services to the refugees and orphans.

These organizations also dedicated themselves to maintaining strong cohesion within the community, encouraging the teaching of the Armenian language and history, and preserving the Armenian culture and tradition.

The community was built in large part through the work of Armenian schools, financial support to Greek-Armenian press, the issuing of grants and scholarships to Greek-Armenian students, the establishing of a blood-bank, the hosting of camps for poor children and adolescents, as well as through cooperation with many other Greek-Armenian foundations.

As the years passed, the community found itself less and less in need of philanthropic contributions. The economic boom of the 80s and Greece’s membership in the European Economic Community- the precursor of the European Union- enabled Greek-Armenian businesses, along with the rest of the population, to flourish. The vast majority of Armenians own businesses that can be described from successful to very successful, while many occupy themselves in administrative positions within the community and artistic professions. Only recently, have Armenians begun to seek careers in academics, entering the social sciences to study fields such as political science, history, public administration, psychology and journalism.

A Cause to Rally Behind

Prosperity offered the community the opportunity to help Armenians elsewhere; funds were allocated to face the difficulties that tormented then Soviet Armenia and still torment the Republic of Armenia. On numerous occasions throughout the 90s, the Greek-Armenian community mobilized to assist the emergent Republic of Armenia, contributing greatly to relief efforts after the 1987 earthquake.

But it was not until the outbreak of the Karabakh conflict that humanitarian aid to Armenia became a systematic effort adopted by the Greek Armenian community. Greece was one of the first countries to offer asylum to Armenian refugees fleeing Azeri aggression. The community mobilized itself along with the Hellenic State to address the difficulties Armenia faced during its first years of independence, mobilizing aid to combat famine, the lack of fuel resources, the stranglehold caused by the Turkish-Azeri blockade. Two kindergarten schools were also established in Nagorno-Karabakh due to donations from the Armenians of Greece. After 2000, financial aid to Armenia also took on the character of investments in Armenia’s economy from Greek corporations. Unfortunately, such ventures are still limited due to the difficulties investors face in Armenia’s market. There have, however, been examples of successful cooperation such as the launch of a Hellenic Aid Chapter. The chapter, managed in collaboration with the Greek ANC, is responsible for collecting fruit crops and pushing them in other European countries’ markets.

Challenges

Despite these accomplishments, the community finds itself facing some serious challenges. Years of prosperity have created an environment of political and cultural apathy among the community’s younger generation.

A very serious generational gap also exists in the community. The older generation, in a sense, retired from cultural and political life after Greece recognized the Armenian Genocide in 1996. While the younger generation, born into assimilation, is largely apathetic to pan-Armenian issues outside their own community. Traditionally, the majority of the community had supported the Armenian Revolutionary Federation and thus, participated in the activities of the Greek ANC. But having grown up in a prosperous environment, the younger generation had very little incentive or encouragement to become active in Armenian issues.

Although integration is very important for an ethnic community’s ability to thrive in a host country, the fact that Armenians did too well within Greek society, may eventually cost them their identity.

One could expect that residing in a more than friendly state would have led Armenians in Greece to fight harder for Armenian interests and set grander goals than simply providing humanitarian aid to Armenia in times of need.

This not being the case, the outside observer is led to the conclusion that social success, as well as success in the genocide recognition issue, may have given reason for the community to rest on its laurels.

Even though political parties have expressed their support on Greek-Cypriot issues and have urged the Hellenic state to act in the case of Karabakh, there has not been much done other than verbal expression. Cooperation between the community and the Greek government in common areas of interest is nonexistent, while representation of Armenians in the Greek Parliament has been limited to one single occasion, once when Kevork Papazian was elected to the Parliament for the 1920-1924 session.

When observing the community one is presented with an image of older members idly watching the course of events, void of ideas that will rejuvenate the political will and movement of a younger generation. Despite the existence of an Armenian Youth Federation chapter, Greek-Armenian youth seems to mobilize itself only once a year in the month of April, with the organized events receiving minimal media coverage and the attendance of people decreasing each year.

It was only 20 years ago that the Greek-Armenian community presented a more vivid and militant image of Armenian activism, now the political element is steadily wearing off.

The community seems to be active only through holding cultural events; the quantity of cultural, athletic and educational associations shows the great tendency and talent of the community towards the arts and letters. Each year, many dance, music and theater performances are held, usually organized by the Hamazkayin Association, while the Homenetmen Association has a soccer, basketball and volleyball team under its wings along with the Armenian Boy Scouts. In addition to that, the charity foundations mentioned above organize bazaars and camps, where children and youngsters from Armenia participate in cultural activities.

Since 2001, there has been an exchange of cultural groups between Greece and Armenia through the Sister Cities Association. The Halandri municipality in the greater Athens area is now sister-cities with Noyemberian. Through this relationship, the aforementioned municipality has been able to offer assistance for the renovation of Noyemberian’s main square, the set-up of a public computer and web classroom and the reconstruction of public streets. On a similar base, the Nea Smyrni municipality donated medical machinery and street-cleaning vehicles to Sissian while the city of Korinthos is now connected to Vanatsor.

Thanks to cultural events, the few Armenian schools left in Greece and the existence of two newspapers and a periodical, the majority of Greek-Armenians are still able to speak their mother language. Unfortunately, the importance of the written language has also been neglected by a large part of the community and gradually fewer and fewer people know how to write in Armenian.

Another matter of concern is the influx of economic immigrants from Armenia in the past years; their numbers are estimated around 20,000 people. That means that they count almost the same as the traditional diaspora in Greece, even though they find themselves in a significantly worse position. Most of them do not speak Greek and have a hard time integrating into Greek society. However, the community has exerted much effort to helping them in any way possible, offering work positions and providing for their education. It is of great interest whether newly arrived Armenians will trigger the inactive and indifferent community to take action in a more meaningful way, thus ensuring, for the new generation of Greek-Armenians, a more sustainable community.

Will the community be able to preserve its Armenian element in 20 years from now? Chances are gloomy. Being an active and informed citizen within one’s community is no easy task. It takes time, effort, knowledge and passion.

And if there is no passion, then the community is bound to lose its character and motivation. The only solution would be for the younger generation to wake up, realize the favorable position in which it has evolved all these years and take advantage of it to pursue Armenian interests more effectively.

Unfortunately, the Greek-Armenian community has failed to do that partially because it did not entrust its organization and management to professionals. That is Armenians with a background in history, politics and the social sciences--people who would make the pursuit of Greek-Armenian interests a profession and not a once-aweek activity by people passionate, but nevertheless unable to thoroughly occupy themselves with the needs of the community and the Armenian state.

The community, as it grew, became too comfortable and did not make use of its prosperity the way it should have. It has also shown stubbornness in changing its ways when the need for evolution was evident. One can only hope that the new generation of Armenian scientists and students will aspire to bring about a much needed change.


“NEW”/“OLD” DIASPORA: SALVATION IN POWER OF UNITY
by Mikael Kourinian

For countless centuries Armenians have migrated to various parts of the world, seeking a safer environment to conduct business and live their lives in relative peace.

Especially after the collapse of the last Armenian kingdom in Greater Armenia, Armenians were left defenseless against barbaric hordes that ravaged our country and forced thousands to seek refuge in foreign lands.

The 20th century in particular was unmerciful for the Armenians, when one million and a half million Armenians were massacred by the Turks and the rest left to wander to distant corners of the world.

We are all aware of the Diaspora communities that formed as a result of the Genocide, as most of us can trace our roots back to Western Armenia along with the migration of our surviving relatives to countries like Iran, Lebanon, France, Argentina, etc. These communities have since flourished, and many Armenians have rooted themselves in all aspects of life in those countries.

Many have preserved their culture, language and family name, by interacting with fellow Armenians through community and social organizations.

Although these developments tend to be associated with the ‘traditional’ Armenian Diaspora communities, my interest here is to focus on the newer generation of migrants from Armenia.

Armenians from Soviet Armenia began immigrating to the West as early as the 70’s. Larger waves of migrants followed soon after in the 80’s and 90’s. For example, between 1980 and 1988 it is estimated that 112,000 people emigrated out of Armenia. From 1991 to 1996, another 667,000 Armenians, 18% of the population, left the homeland. A large number found themselves in places such as the United States, one of the traditional Armenian Diaspora communities.

For the older communities, Armenians from Armenia seemed different, speaking a different dialect and having mannerisms almost alien to them. As wave after wave moved to various parts of Europe, and the Americas, we witnessed some resistance from the traditional communities towards the recent immigrants. Communication was the major barrier, as the older communities adapted words from the host country whereas the Armenians from Armenia, under Russian influence, frequently utilized Russian words. For instance, the word tomato for an Armenian from Armenia is a “pamidor”-Russian, and for a western Armenian, a cart is an “araba”- Arabic.

Unfortunately, a host of minute problems such as these created rifts among the community, especially in the Los Angeles area.

While some may choose to focus on these trivial differences and seek to exacerbate stereotypes, it is important for us as a people to rise beyond these minor obstacles and take a practical look at the very serious challenges facing our nation. It is a fact that the majority of Armenians currently live abroad, making the imperative for us to unite in the Diaspora even more critical. We should acknowledge our commonalities and common interests as a people exiled to foreign lands. Given our situation, we simply cannot afford to be divided.

Furthermore, we should seek to utilize the advantages our position presents for our nation. Unlike other ethnicities, Armenians speak countless languages and have a keen understanding of the mindset of various cultures worldwide. These skills can help us build Armenia’s economy and political ambitions in today’s increasingly globalized community.

Let us look beyond the differences and realize that one type of Armenian is not superior to the other. We must embrace our differences and utilize all available resources to further our interests.

Speaking from my experience as an Armenian who moved from Armenia to Los Angeles in the early, I have accepted all Armenians as my equals and actively cooperated with all organizations—traditional Diasporan and the ‘new’ Armenians from Armenia—to push our cause forward. I would like to see all of us work more cooperatively in the future and pool our collective resources for our nation’s common interests.

The days of division and alienation within our community must come to an end if we want to see a strong and prosperous Armenia. We have several challenges to overcome as a nation and we cannot be hampered by petty, antiquated differences. We must embrace our commonalities and organize together, around our points of unity. This is the only way our people can move forward
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Wednesday, January 27, 2010

3002) Vahan Cardashian, The Former Consul Of The Ottoman Empire In Washington

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I Bet You did not Know
Forget about the reality television star Kim K(C)ardashian. Let's see the former Consul of the Ottoman Empire in Washington, a much more interesting Vahan Cardashian[1]

Mavi Boncuk |

I Bet You did not Know that The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) is the outgrowth of the American Committee for the Independence of Armenia (ACIA) which founded after World War I by Vahan Cardashian, the former Consul of the Ottoman Empire in Washington. Many prominent American and Allied leaders including James W. Gerard [2], former U.S. Ambassador to Germany who served as president of the ACIA, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Charles Evans Hughes (later appointed Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court), Elihu Root and others participated to this organization. The goal of ACIA was the independent Wilsonian Armenia. The ACIA had a Central Office in New York City and 23 regional offices in 13 states.
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[1] Vahan Cardashian was born around 1880 in Kayseri/Gesaria, Turkey. Cardashian made his way to the United States in 1902 by marrying an older American. After graduating with a law degree from Yale in 1908 he went on to open a successful legal practice in New York and was a colleague of Armen Karo (Armenia’s Ambassador to the United States of America and soon to direct the hit man squad NEMESIS). From 1911 to 1915, Cardashian represented the Ottoman Embassy and its New York consulate. He resigned his post in 1915 when he claimed that his mother and sister were among the victims of the 1915 Genocide [*]; soon he became active in the American Committee for an Independent Armenia (ACIA).”

James H. Tashjian [**], "Life and Papers of Vahan Cardashian, Armenian Review 10, no. 1 (Spring, 1957): 8.

In 1918 Vahan Cardashian was appointed director of the A.R.F. central committee media office. During this period he closed his private practice and allocated his time and wealth of $40,000 to the Armenian Cause. Cardashian even went after die-hard friends of Armenians, such as the Rev. James Barton and President Woodrow Wilson (see "Wilson, the Wrecker of Armenia"), when these folks would not go far enough for Hai Tahd. In 1934 at the age of 51, Vahan Cardashian died in long island.

Although he was not able to shift US policy against collaboration with Kemalist Turkey, his efforts helped lead to such successes as Woodrow Wilson’s push for a viable Armenia in the Treaty of Sevres, official White House recognition of the Armenian Republic and the blocking of American ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne.

[2] James Watson Gerard (August 25, 1867 - September 6, 1951) was a U.S. lawyer and diplomat. He was appointed to the New York Supreme Court in 1908, where he served as associate justice. Under President Woodrow Wilson, he served as the American Ambassador to Germany from 1913 to 1917. The German government asked him to leave in January of 1917. He left Germany in February, and retired from diplomatic service entirely in July of that year. An ardent Turcophobe, interestingly Gerard once said in a speech: "The Foreign Minister of Germany once said to me your country does not dare do anything against Germany, because we have in your country five hundred thousand Germans reservists [emigrants] who will rise in arms against your government if you dare to make a move against Germany. Well, I told him that that might be so, but that we had five hundred thousand and one lamp posts in this country, and that that was where the reservists would be hanging the day after they tried to rise."

George H. Doran Company were the American publishers for a large number of British authors and as part of the World War I war propaganda, the company was the major source for Allied literature. Doran published a number of other books on the War including two by James W. Gerard. George H. Doran Company merged with Doubleday, Page & Company in 1927, making "Doubleday, Doran" the largest publishing business in the English-speaking world and the Doran name disappeared in 1946 when the company became known simply as "Doubleday & Company."

[3] James Harutune Tashjian (b. 1922- d. Nov. 29, 2006), better known as Jimmy Tashjian, the chief editor of the Hairenik/Armenian Weekly for more than 3 decades.

[*] He was caught spying and was fired in late October 1915. See "Life and Papers of Vahan Cardashian, Armenian Review, 10:3-39 Aut. 1957, p. 104.)

[**] James Harutune Tashjian (b. 1922-d. Nov. 29, 2006), better known as Jimmy Tashjian, the chief editor of the Hairenik/Armenian Weekly for more than 3 decades.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010

3001) Yes We Can! By Henry Astrajian

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Yes We Can! By Henry Astrajian MD Jan 15th-22nd, 2010

We wonder if This Henry Astrajian MD is same as the Dr Henry Astarjian who once said in his hate speech at an ANCA Event: You Say: We're Small, I Say: So Is Virus. Vigilant&Fatal, We (Armenians) Have To Learn From Virus"
De Henry Astarjian has been the Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK) terrorist organization supporter, written articles for the "Kurdish Times" and addressed the "Kurdistan Parliament in exile in Brussels" according to the ANCA.

Physician Information
Physician Name: Henry Astarjian, MD
Address: 39 Simon Street Suite 9
Nashua, New Hampshire 03060
License Number: 108304
License Type: MD
Year of Birth: 1934
Effective Date: 12/08/1998
Action: License surrender
Misconduct Description: The physician did not contest the charge of having been disciplined by the New Hampshire Board of Medicine for engaging in unprofessional conduct by kissing a patient.
License Restrictions:
Board Order: View The Document Here: lc108304.pdf

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Mr Astrajian: if you are not the same person please contact us for us to remove the health.state.ny.us items from this post

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Some dream of it, many don’t! When contemplated, many say it is impossible! When brought to focus they give you a hundred reasons as to why it is a losing proposition; the faint hearted freeze at the thought; The ones who have guts to face the . . . issue, don’t have leadership, yet the leadership of the major political parties do not even have it on their radar screen! Or if they do, they tremble before its challenges! The issue on their political platform like Maurice Ravel’s Bolero, is repetitious, rhetorical, and aimless. Yet they manipulate the emotions of their audiences by uttering the cliché rhetoric “Miatsial Azad Angakh Hayastan” (United Free Sovereign Armenia). This is the topic which generates all that is mentioned above, and it is the height of hypocrisy. People would not tolerate it anymore; the political Parties would lose whatever credibility they have left – which is less than that of the Congress of the United States- and the legitimacy of their leadership would further deteriorate to incredulity.

Miatsial Azad Angakh Hayastan!

The concept is right, the cause is legitimate and just, the task is difficult, and to some, who are oblivious to the vagaries of the political situation, it is unrealistic at best. These are people who, given a successful project will give you ten reasons why it will not succeed.

The situation of all these factions is fully understandable; Armenian Diaspora, though fully recovered physically, is severely traumatized psychologically to a degree that mere mention of Turkey generates hatred, disgust, and anger. Even the third generation Diasporan Armenian, talks about their ancestral home in “Turkish Armenia”, and recant the stories of horror, death and destruction that the Turks and some Kurds, mostly of Zaza tribe, have inflicted upon its innocent, most valuable citizens, the Armenians, the Assyrians, and of late the Kurds.

To these people, Turkey is a giant; it is a member of NATO, it is indispensable in implementing the policies of the United States in the region, it is an ally of Israel, it is a counterbalance to Iran, and can check Syria anytime. It has a unique strategic land mass, which enables her to control the Black sea despite the international treaties regulating naval passage. For all these reasons, and more Turkey is untouchable.

This is how Turkey looks from outside! What is inside is another matter. Kemal Ataturk’s pronouncement of Turkey being “Independent, layik, and democratic” has completely failed. Turkey is neither of those; Turkey may be relatively independent, but is neither secular nor democratic. One man one vote does not make democracy, and I am not even talking about Jeffersonian democracy; democracy is a way of life, which Turkey does not have, makes no effort to achieve, and can not achieve even if its rulers desired it, though they don’t.

Claimed secularism is contrary to the realities of Turkish society, which is Islamist, it is Islamist, it is Islamist, despite Turkish official denial. And the dominant sect is the Naqshbandi branch of Islam., which is now in power. This sect has many branches, of which the Golden Chain Naqshbandi-Haqqani, globally headed by Sheikh Nazim al-Qubrisi of Cyprus, is the most influential in Turkey. To this sect belong Necmettin Erbakan ( The mid 1990s Prime Minister of Turkey who was tried and convicted for embezzlement, stashing 140 kilos of gold, later pardoned by his ally, President Abdullah Gul), Recep Tayyip Erdogan (Turkey’s Prime Minister), and Abdullah Gul (Turkey’s President).

It is this clique which has been elected by Turkey’s people, admittedly in a democratic way. So, if Turkey is secular, how did these Naqshbandi Islamists come to power?

The year was 1993. In a rally in Berlin, sheikh Nazim al-Qubaisi was introduced as the lead speaker. A long white bearded, turbaned man with bulged eyes ascended the podium acknowledging the thunderous applause of the audience, by glorifying God: “Allaahu Ekber”, which echoed “Allaahu Ekbar” in the huge stadium, by their pronouncement, you could tell they were not Arabs. He was the epitome of the sheikhs and mullahs of the Ottoman era Turkey, who preached in mosques during the Friday Prayers, calling for the annihilation of the infidel Armenians and Assyrians, and asserting the supremacy of Islam, as being the Deen-ul-Haqq (The legitimate religion) and the Khalif, the Khalif of All Muslims.

His speech spewed rhetorical flame asking the audience to win the battle against the infidels. To me he looked and behaved like the Ottoman General, who rallied his troops at the gates of Vienna, before being soundly defeated.

In the audience, seated in the front row, were non other than Erbakan, Erdogan, and Abdulla Gul; the present top brass of Turkey.

This situation does not sit well with the Kemalists, especially the military hierarchy. Their prophet is the Free Mason Kemal Ataturk whose orientation was secularism European style. To achieve that he beheaded hundreds of sheikhs and mullahs, like Sheikh Qubrusi including Kurds. The mere existence and strong presence of the Islamist government is a prime indication of the death of Kemalism. For some wishful thinkers, it is morbidly wounded, but not quite dead yet; for them Ataturk remains to be their prophet, yet for the Islamists the real prophet is Mohammed, and rightfully so.

There exists bitter enmity between the Army, the guardian of Ataturk doctrine, and the Islamist government, which is the true representative of the people. The army, the guardian of the faith, has ruled Turkey with iron fist, since the inception of the “Secular Republic”. They continue to muzzle free speech; hundreds of journalists, including our Hrant Dink, have been tried and convicted. Utter criticism of the government is construed as “Insulting Turkishness” requiring punishment. This is none other than Pavlovian control of the mind Turkish society is thus split. Turkey’s society is even more fragmented; Kurds and their non-Kurdish sympathizers, on one side, and the establishment on the other.

This clash of faith and philosophy is Turkey’s Main dilemma, and might be cause for its transformation to another entity, especially when the Kurdish Cause is entered into the equation. Could the condition be changed?

This is Turkey to which the corrupt Armenian Government is cow-towing, trashing the Nations interests. See you next week!


About Dr. Henry Astarjian
Dr. Henry Astarjian was born in Kirkuk, Iraq, and attended the Khrimian Azgayin Varzharan. In 1958, he graduated from the Royal College of Medicine and went on to serve as an army medical officer in Iraqi Kurdistan. He continued his medical education in Scotland and England. In 1966, he emigrated to the U.S. In 1992, he served as a New Hampshire delegate to the Republication National Convention in Houston, Texas.

His weekly column "Loud and Clear" appeared in the Armenian Weekly for several years. He was the editor of the short lived "Armeno-Kurdish Chronicle" and has written articles in the Kurdistan Times. For three years, Astarjian addressed the Kurdish Parliament in Exile in Brussels, defending Armenian rights to Western Armenia, which is now inhabited by Kurds and a million-or-so converted Armenians. For three consecutive years, he addressed the American Kurds in California and Maryland.

Astarjian has also been a keynote speaker during April 24 commemorations and May 28 celebrations in California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey. He delivered a speech at the American University of Armenia on "The Kurdish Revolution and the Armenian Cause."

He is the author of The Struggle for Kirkuk, published by Preager and Preager International Securities.
19 Responses for “Yes We Can!”
- an observation for you henry. you start by talking about a united free sovereign armenia and you finish by emphasising the secular v religious divide in turkey. you make several interesting and valid points on both topics, but i find it hard to see the link between the two.
- [...] Turkey’s position on Protocols can violate reasonable terms of ratification PanARMENIAN.Net Asbarez News

- Okaaaay… You’ve stated all the realities on stage today on both sides, Dr. A.. My personal mission for Armenians to accomplish is what’s on that map behind WW! I don’t care if Turkey, the U.S., Britain and especially Israel recognized our Genocide any more. They can deny it all they want, for I know what I’ve heard from my grandmother and her mother to be nothing but Genocide. But for getting our land back, I happen to think NONE of the means utilized by the Jews to finally have a country in 1947, such as a promise from a super power country, migration, terrorism, politics, bribery, diplomacy, purchasing Western Armenia from Turkey as real estate acquisition, etc… will work for us. The only way is war, in one context or another, and again it would require Russia’s involvement… As the greatest window of opportunity became available in WW2, but USSR under Stalin would not give us the green light. We can forget about the U.S. as Armenian doesn’t have oil! Without the Ruskies, we would have to wait several hundred years to be powerful enough to take on Turkey on our own. Ironically, without that Black Sea coast it WILL take that long… We have to think of ways and schemes to turn Russia and Turkey into such enemies that are ready to go to war over something worth and equal to matter of existence and survival as nations!

So Dr. Astarjian, in your upcoming ‘Yes We Can! , I expect you to illustrate how will we ever be able to have our future Armenian generations enjoy living or vacationing in our own Armenian Riviera at the Black Sea and rank among the world’s top 50 tourist destinations…

“You may say I’m a dreamer… But I’m not the only one!” This WILL happen one way or the other. I’m quite sure of it. I only hurt that such reality is not on stage TODAY, for me and my love ones to currently enjoy…

- “destruction that the Turks and some Kurds, mostly of Zaza tribe, have inflicted upon its innocent, most valuable citizens, the Armenians, the Assyrians”

Zaza’s are not a tribe of Kurds, they are not even Kurds. They are an Iranic people. They claim Greater Tsopk’ as being Zazaistan. The northern Zaza’s are Alevi were and are pro Armenian. They did not participate in the Armenian Genocide. They saved well over 20,000 Armenians during WWI. They were victims of genocide in 1908 and 1937. Southern Zaza’s are Sunni. They took part in the genocide.

As for “Turkish Armenia”, this is an archaic term. The proper term would be Turkish occupied Armenia or Western Armenia. The Armenian countries occupied by Turkey are the following: Greater Armenia, Lesser Armenia, Commagene and Cilicia.

Genocide has been committed against all non sunni populations. Armenians, Greeks, Pontians, Alevi Zazas, Yezidis and Syriacs. Alevi Turks are and have been severely repressed. As for the difference between an Armenian and an Alevi “Turk”, leaders of them in the past have said the “difference is that of the width of an onion layer” and that “both are cut from the same cloth”.

We are all Anatolians. Some are pure evil, some are future allies in the destruction of the kemalist state.

There can be no peace without justice for all.

- Sadly, we cant achieve any of our goals when we have such corrupt crooks in power,they need to be thrown out by the people and the architects of these treacherous protocols must be put on trial for treason,they are Serzh,Nalbandian,and Arman Kirakossian,anything less will not do.

- To save Armenian Nation … Armenian People have to “SACRIFICE” few hundred TRAITORS!!

- No you cannot! It is clearly suicidal for you to try to invade Turkey. Are you really serious? When i read this article, I felt like, wow, I do not know anything about the country, the country that i lived in 27 years.

When all is said and done, Turks unite. people can be islamist, secular, communist or whatever. We are all one body. You are just living in a dream that will never be true. Why do not you try to lead a normal life? Just be yourself, realize your power(lesness) against Turkey. Try to be happy in your life, this is how we are living in Turkey

- “I do not know anything about the country, the country that i lived in 27 years.”

This is very true of most “turks”. You and the rest of the citizenry of the turkish republic are completely brainwashed as I shall explain. North Korea and Turkey have much in common. Cult of personality- kemalism, brainwashing a turkish identity on to the vast majority who are not really turks, repressing Anatolian cultures- non Sunni based culture. The turkish government is built on a foundation of blood and lies.

Being a “turk” is just a veneer. The downfall of turkiye is based on removal of this veneer. The soviet union collapsed because of economics. Turkey will collapse because of ethnicity, religion and the sheer weight of the lies of kemalism.

It’s nice that you care about what we do with our time and wish us pursuit of a happy life, great advice, but what could be better then seeing to the destruction of the most genocidal state in world history? Even if my chances of winning are 1 in a million it’s wonderful to be a thorn in turkey’s side and get turkey upset and its brainwashed people to see the error of their ways.

Afterall, who would have thunk it that the Soviet Union would disintegrate? ;)
Evil states come and go quicker than most. Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany and soon Kemal’s “turkey”.


- It is not easy to push a nation to the wall. Wait and see. Soon, Armenians will invent weapons that will paralyze our old friend upon going online. Of course, we will discriminate against one lucky Turk for London museum. You should start praying. You could be the lucky one. We must have learned something from our old friends.


- Very BIG LIE!!

- Both Shant Melkonian and Dino Ajemian; I echo your dreams and aspirations as I have for as long as I have been on earth! Between the Kemalist Masonry regime full of lies and their followers, the leftist Musilmans “Allah U-Akbar and El Deen Al-Haqq” of Sheikh Nazim-El Qubrisi, then the 20 million Kurds right in the middle of Turkey’s throats «????????» I wish and pray that Melkonian’s predictions will come true and Turkey will be fallen completely apart, better yet Turkey and Russia will become such huge enemies to go into war, then we shall finally gain control of our anscestral lands back, and hopefully more than the Wilsonian Armenia. I say May God will be willing… en francais, Que Dieu sera dispose… in Arabic, Insha Allah… in Armenian ??????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????:

- , Yes you are right. Wishful thinking is also known as day dreaming. Keep it up !!!

- Mr. Turk, what about your dream? Yes. Your dream is Armenia without Armenians. Your forefathers tried it very hard and failed. Please, consult Webster Dictionary for meaning of the word “Turk.”

I predict Armenians have been planning to use internet and realize their dream.

- you go watch what’s happening in your country (Turkey), the army is fighting against the AKP the Islamists. There’s a lot going on in your country – go worry about that.

Whether we dream or not it is our business; you turks stole our historical Western Armenian lands after annihilating the majority of our people on our own lands, and then you stole it and keep on denying the Armenian Genocide for almost 100 years. Know this, we shall overcome and we shall have our Western Armenian lands back one way or another for we are smart and resilient. You go and dream of Pan-Turanism (your impossible) dreams.


- To start with I am not a Turk nor I am an Azeri. Try to be fair to all. You guys occupied 7 districts of Azerbaijan and expelled the entire population from there who were rightly living in their homeland a mere 16 years back. But in the same breath you talk about your rights which you foresook a hundred years back? And you think the Turks will gladly give back with a thank you note? Try to be fair and reasonable In India they call it the Karma

- Hye Shant Melkonian, hang in there… Turkey is a decadent, decayed, decaying nation. It’s collapse is imminent, even sooner than the Turks can see. Manooshag

- I think the deniars are delusional. The definition of delusional is that despite being to told the facts, ones refusal to come to terms with reality. Turks are delusional. They have to accept reality that they cannot exist in this world by their murdering and denying old ways. Ghengis Khan can’t save them now. It is a smaller world. They are despised all over the world and treated as the scum they are. If it were up to me, I would like to see them seek refuge back in the Gobe desert, for their own safety, of course.


Yes We Can! Part II By Henry Astrajian

So, this is Turkey inside out, with the inside being its underbelly; exposed, soft, and vulnerable. Despite its genuine structural weaknesses, Institutional Turkey continues to colonize the non-Turkic inhabitants of Turkey; the Kurds and other minorities, who suffer ethnic, cultural and educational oppression.

For nearly a century we have been in a wake, mourning our 1.5 million dead in the Genocide, but have forgotten, mostly ignored, our “living dead”; a million or so Armenians who have been forcefully converted to Islam, carrying the ID of a Turk.

For nearly a century we have ignored the cries of these people; “Please save us!”, which had resonated in our post-Genocidal conscience. The Nation, which had barely survived the Genocide and in shell shock, could barely care for itself, let alone rescue the lamb from the jaws of the wolf. Despite that, there were some rescues, but not from Turkey. Some Arab tribes, mainly the Mujhhims (Shammars), had saved some Armenian children from the Syrian Desert, Der-el-Zor. My uncle by marriage Dickran, was an accomplice in “Kidnapping” some of these girls from their Arab “Savers”, and bringing them to Mosul.

That was a triumph, but that was all. There were some similar, sporadic anecdotes, but not more.

As time passed their cries echoed fainter and fainter, until now, when, despite the loudness of their cry; “Please save us!” it faintly echoes in the empty chambers of our memories.

Diaspora is oblivious to their calls, and the leadership is ignorant, more correctly inept in handling the problem; they are busy pursuing the cause of the dead in a bloody Genocide, ignoring the cause of the victims of the bloodless Genocide (My uncle called it ‘Red Genocide and White Genocide’) ignoring their inherent duty to do something, something which could take many forms.

We have to learn from the others: the United States Armed Forces do not leave any soldier, dead or alive, behind. Israel has one captive soldier with Hamas, and they are raising hell to get him back. The issue holds a prime importance in their conduct of diplomacy to bring Shallet home. They negotiated the release of a thousand Palestinian prisoners for the release of their single soldier.

In Kurdish American meetings, which I have attended, at least two dozen Kurds have anonymously confided in me that their grandmother, sometimes grandfather, is Armenian, and they consider themselves both Kurds and Armenians. They invariably have questioned, rhetorically, “What have we gained from being Muslims?” These few words speak volumes. I had Kemal, a polite semi-educated “Turk”, who said his mother was Armenian, but “Please keep it a secret”; even though he had become a naturalized American, he was afraid of some kind of retaliation against his relatives in Turkey. A doctor friend of mine from Elazig (Kharpert) told me that his grandmother was Armenian, and the only word he learned from her was “Parehgam” (Friend). There are the Hemshins in the Trabizon area, who have collectively converted to Islam, but they are Armenians, and proud of it too.

Demographic diversity in Turkey- unlike the United States where it is an asset- spells disaster for the country, because of Turks hegemony and colonization of its minority citizens, especially of the not-so-minor population of Kurds who constitute approximately one third of Turkey’s population.

The persecution of this large segment of the population creates nothing less than resentment, hatred, contempt, and armed struggle, the way it has been conducted by the armed Kurds. The dynamics of their rebellion is the same as that of the Armenians who had no choice, but to bear arms to defend their hamlets and villages.

Another persecuted notable group is the Alevis, the Shi’a, not Sunni Alevis who gladly accepted the converted Armenian into their Islamic fold.

There is no doubt that the converts to Islam, though half or quarter Armenian, given the freedom that they deserve, will claim their ethnic origin as theirs, and join forces with the Kurds to reclaim their land. The Kurds realize, and I have articulated this in my speeches to the Kurdish Parliament in Exile (Brussels), that our causes meet, and that our causes are intertwined, that we have a common enemy, and that we are a de-facto presence in Anatolia, and that our rights on the land is reserved by the Sevres Treaty, which also gave us the Wilsonian Map. It is clear that a unilateral rapprochement between the Kurds and the Turks, must not be at the expense of Western Armenia. Given all that, we should have no problems with the Kurds.

It is incumbent upon our leadership to pursue the matter in earnest and fight for it as if the White Genocide is the continuation of the red Genocide. We are already a century late.

Some say it takes a miracle. Others who have the faith say yes we can! Yes we can take back Western Armenia, but only if we have the resolve, if we have the guts, and if we mobilize our forces, in toto. Yes we can succeed in re-creating Western Armenia, which then can fulfill the promise of Miatsial Azad Angakh Hayastan (United, Free, and Sovereign Armenia) in earnest. Until then the title remains as it is; a slogan.


22 Responses for “Yes We Can! Part II”

- And what about those who refuse to join you and say that they are content with their situation? How will they be dealt with?

- If they are content with their situation… then… let them stay where they are…. there are so many like them in Yerevan. Perhaps some day their children/grandchildren will join us who will cherish our Historic Homeland, where our forefathers have spilled their blood to protect the Armenian Nation for thousands of years.

- The article discusses taking over land from another country. My original comments apply mainly to the people living on that land, since that is the subject of the article, but my comments can also apply, as you interpret them, to the people who will supposedly be motivated to participate in an armed invasion of another country. But how will the people already living on that land be dealt with if they are content with their situation, meaning that they will see a sudden change in government as a threat and will likely not accept it? How will they be dealt with?
And you don’t really answer the question of how those who will supposedly be motivated for war be dealt with if they refuse to participate in an armed invasion. Will they be required to finance the armed invasion? What if they refuse?

- Absolutely let us not forget Western Armenia and even more so, let us work for it’s return to Armenian sovereignty. The Kurdish people are connected in this issue as well. Let Armenians and Kurds sit down together and talk these issues through, create a plan, then implement it. An important part of this would likely be to reclaim those of Armenian ancestory who would like to again be Armenians. Let us encourage and help them in any way we can.

Just imagine what it would be like for Turkey to suddenly wake up one day with over a million Armenians within it’s borders. It’s achievable. Lets make it happen.

- In about a 100 years there are 4 generations, if the first /second generation were Armenian, the identity keeps on getting diluted as you go along with the 4th generation knowing nothing of their predecessors. I agree with La, you always have the silent majority who are content with their situation how will you deal with them

- The Turkish Oppression, the Kurdish revolt keeps them on their toes, not to mention frustration of their survivor parent’s clan being wiped-out!

- “We should have no problems with the Kurds?” Go read your history and don’t be naive!

Further, how do you propose we administer a Western Armenia with 12 Million Kurds? They will be the majority!

- Panos, you are mistaken…most Kurds live further south of historical Armenian lands, close to the Iraqi and Syrian borders.

If you look at the Wilsonian map, most of Turkey’s 20 million Kurds live “just about” south of the (Wilsonian) border. There are, however, Kurdish tribes, that live on land leased from the Turkish landowners. These tribes will absolutely have no problem vacating Armenian lands if asked. I as a Kurd, have absolutely no problem packing up and moving out. The Wilsonian map clearly shows all historical Armenian lands, and they belong to you, and every inch of it, too.

However, historical Armenian lands, from Black sea and on, are inhabited mostly by ethnic turks, and in the Black sea area of historical Armenia, there still are Islamized Armenians called the Hamshen, who number about 100,000(???) I have had the opportunity to visit and meet Hamshens, some of whom speak the Western dialect of the Armenian language. Some believe that Mesut Yelmaz, the former premier, is a Turkified ethnic Hamshen Armenian, at least that’s what we’ve heard from turks. But he has to keep a low profile to survive as a politician in Turkey.

Do not let the turk divide Kurds and Armenians with their dirty tricks.
They already are at work telling us Kurds that Armenians will come and throw us out. Most of us, don’t believe one word coming from the mouth of a turk, but some uneducated and naive Kurds will heed to this dirty propaganda and betray us all.

Armenians should start building friendship bridges with the Kurds, and soon.

- The Population of Wilsonian Armenia is 4.9 million. Pontos and Lazistan is about 1.6 million and the Armenian Highlands 3.3 milion. Many historical Armenian villages are deserted till today. Many of the depopulated kurdish villages are originally Armenian villages. The Armenian section of Van is empty. Todays Erzincan is located away from Armenian deserted Arzinga. Because of wonton destruction of Armenia in 1915 many of our ancestral towns are empty. If you factor in our allies, those of the Alevi confession, the Hemshins and the empty areas, Armenians would control the majority of the land and population base outside of a few large cities. As part of a reparations plan funds will be available to buy out Sunnis and relocate them in central Anatolia. As is the case of Ajaria in Georgia, with religious freedom of the liberated wesern portion of Greater Armenia a large portion of those remaining will convert to Chrisitanity and retake an Armenian identity. The Trabzon greek moslems will convert back to Greek orthodoxy. The evidence is clear, Ajaria was 70% moslem, today after 20 years it is 65% Christian without an influx of new people. So in the case of turkish occupied Wilsonian Armenia an Armenian majority and friendly minority groups will exist in a short time after liberation. As a cartographer I am working on defining and delimiting Wilsonian Armenia based on the historic and present geographical data in terms of pre 1915 villages and post 1915 developed villages and towns.

- 12 million Kurds don’t belong in the Partser Hayk area. If and when Western Armenia is ours again, then this will be as it was for thousands of years the land of Armenians; I am thinking now of Wilsonian Armenia. Kurds belong in the southern part of today’s turkey, not in Wilsonian Armenia or in Partser Hayk.

- Once again, we are falling into the turkish games and politics. They are working day and night to build a gap between our two peoples.
To make this clear to my Armenian friends, here is where most of my people live.

[ Most of us live south of the historical Armenian borders, south of the Wilsonian borders. However there are Kurdish tribes, the ones that move from one place to another, and they have no permanent homes. These tribes lease these Armenian lands from the turkish occupiers. The Wisonian Armenian lands overwhelmingly belong to turkish government and absentee turkish landlords.

Besides, we have no problems at all moving out, if asked.]

Turks are already at work using these kind of messages to frighten us Kurds. They will use every imaginable article and post to scare us of the impending Armenian onslaought. So, I ask my Armenian friends, do not feed the turkish fires with Armenian gasoline.

Our turkish occupied lands lie close to Iraqi and Syrian borders, where most of turkey’s 20 million(and not 12 million, which is a turkish manufactured lie) live.

DO NOT TRUST ONE WORD COMING FROM THE MOUTH OF A turk.
THEY WILL NOT HESITATE TO COMMIT ANOTHER GENOCIDE IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.
NOT ONE INCH OF YOUR LANDS SHOULD GO TO THE turks.


- Partser Hayk is a province of Greater Armenia. It’s population is not 12 million but 800,000. 80% turkish 20% kurdish. You must mean Medz Hayk. Outside Wilsonian Armenia in the proposed kurdish autonomous region, a portion of which is the rest of Greater Armenia, the bulk of our allies the Alevis and hidden Armenian live there and would prefer to be part of an Armenian state. That area is identical to our historical Greater Tsopk`.

To BK:
Turkish occupied Greater Armenia (not Wilsonian Armenia) has a population of 5.5 million. Two million are our allies, hidden Armenians and Alevi’s. The 3.5 million can relocate to central Anatolia which would be less of a burden than the 500,000 turks who came from Greece after the population exchange between Greece and turkey in 1923. It would be infinitely easier than what Greece had to endure with a 25% increase in the 1923 exchange. In my proposed relocation it would only be a 5% increase. Besides the legal relocation of 1923, 12 million germans were relocated from lands given to Poland after WWII. So there is precedent. Genocide can never go unpunished. The turks know this, that is why they work so hard to finish what they started against the Armenian people. So the numbers are not as “sheer” as you wish them to be. The worst enemies of the Armenian people are not turks but Armenians who put obstacles in the way of Hye Tahd. It’s like they are working for the barbarians with their lies, half truths and defeatist sophistry. We can win this! We can do it! Yes we can! Ignore the defeatists and ignore the parties and lets work together defending our Ethos and Ethnos. It’s is possible. Back in the 80’s the same people who said Armenia could never be an independent state and that the soviet union would never allow the tricolor to fly again are the same people who say if Western Armenia is ours who would move back? It would be full of moslems, Armenia would become kurdistan etc etcetera. My answer is dont worry about that, lets work on dividing and destroying the genocidal turkish government. The rest we can sort out later.

- I agree with Panos. By the sheer numbers Western Armenia would become Kurdistan. Please don’t even think about it. Let people live their lives after so many years.

- I am a soul from genocide
“ The Powerfulls insist to rule,
but never this time,
We are all citizens of this Earth
We have Humanitarian role
In any land, we smelled their grass
Or sandy dusts!

We can all unite to rule
We pretend to be happy
But still we look to our Star
Which will never fall
Unless we wanted it to fall!

- I heartily congratulate who draw this diagram; I thought first the photo is Henry Astarjian’s Uncle, Dr. Astarjian. I remember he had a palace in Mosul (Naynawa) in Iraq.

But looking carefully it is the president W. Wilson standing and pointing.
My grand parents have a land in Diyarbakir and we still have the Tapos (official documents of the lands).Belonged to lawyer Garabed Dabbaghian who was slayed.

- I miss the sharpness you had in the fist part. An armenian cant be islamic.. Panos how did the jews get rid of all those arabs from their lands (israel)?

- “Please save us! wow what a bunch of cheap propaganda, lets stop hating please.

- actually guys its very simple.

when Armenians get western Armenia back, will fight for the wrights of the Kurds as well, and give them refuge statues and stand for their wright to a homeland in south Turkey joined by their brothers in north of Iraq. Everybody deserves a country to call homeland.

We never tried to convert anyone and for our brothers who converted by force or else will be welcomed and given equal wrights, if they wish. We are no Turks we believe in diversity and the power than it has.

Armenians and Kurds need to be working together against a comen enemy for a comen cause.


- Dr. , any land that you owned in Diyarbekir, will be returned to their rightful owners(you). I am sorry and ashamed that Kurdish families occupy your houses. The lands, quite possibly belong to absentee turkish landowners. Unlike Turks, we really feel sorry for occupying and living in houses that belonged to Armenians.

These are issues that can and will be rectified once we throw the Genocidal turk out of our houses forever.

I assure all Armenians, that not one single Armenian will be molested by Kurds. The days of turkish treachery and lies are over and we are aware of their dirty tricks. We will never be a tool in the hands of turks, never ever.

Jaques, your words really touched me, I am greatful for your very kind and generous words. We did great harm to the Armenians, we know about it, because we were used quite skillfully by the turks. We lived side by side with the Armenians for thousands of years, and never in our histories, did we or you attempt to annihilate the other. Armenians were to us, and us Kurds were to you, worthy oponents….until the appearance of this viceous and violently murderous turks, then all hell broke loose.

In any case, if my people inhabits a house, or owns land that belonged to the Armenians, we will gladly move out if and when asked..

Let us all leave our petty squabbles at the door, and concentrate on how to ask these turks, to leave our lands and accept the dirty deeds(Genocides) their garandfathers committed.

- My question is to all Armenians. All these years all over the world you are striving to take eastern part of Turkey, half of Azerbaijan, Javakhetia from Georgia or go even further create Great Armenia from Sea to Sea (Black sea to Caspian sea). Even if hypothetically speaking you would be able to accomplish this Great Armenia how do you expect to reside big part of South Caucasus and Eastern Anatolia with two million Armenians living in modern Armenia. Ohh maybe Armenian Diaspora living in the States will move to the mountains of Eastern Anatolia and live with their Kurdish peshmerge brothers. The lands that Armenians are claiming are currently habited by at least 20-25 million non-armenian population. What are you going to do with those people? Kill them or expel them to somewhere else.

(Turks and Tatars back to Mongolia and Eastern China, Kurds to Iran and all the Georgians to Tbilisi). My suggestions to you live those people alone. None of the nations living in the region will evaporate to somewhere else; armenains as well as other people of the region have to find the ways peacefully coexist together. The people of the region have only one way for survival: pease, respect and mutual cooperation between each other or else as we have always seen they will be easy target for big powers and live in poverty and misery forever.

I hope you stop being prejudice and post my comments

- I will dispell the myths you have created. Turkish occupied Greater Armenia has a population of only 4.9 million not 20-25 million. 7% of ROT’s population 6% of ROT’s GDP and 12% of ROT’s area.

It’s debatable as to the present population numbers of ROA. The carrying capacity of ROA is 800,000 according to my calculations. Armenians in ROA and Russia, Europe and the Western Hemisphere would be sufficient to repopulate Greater Armenia presently occupied by Turkey. Easily 2.5 million will return. One half from Armenia and the other half from the diaspora. We had no problems with Alevis east of the euphrates and previous turkish governments were always fearful of Alevi-Armenian cooperation. Hidden Armenians , Yezidis, Assyrians and Alevis can and will have a place in Greater Armenia. The turkish government would be bound to remove Sunni turks and turkified kurds to central Anatolia. After all 12 million Germans went peacefully out of eastern Germany so that Poles could take their place. Its been done before. LEGALLY. There will be peace, respect and mutual cooperation when the turks no longer control lands that they dont deserve- ethnically, historically and by acts of genocide. No one and no country would “evaporate” as you say. Anyway those issues are not your problem. Thanks for the concern though. This is all very possible and the turkish government knows it. Thats what all this struggle with genocide recognition is all about. Your dark clouds hold no lightning, nor thunder, not even rain.



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